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#2498558 - 01/18/12 09:08 PM delvac 15w40 10kmil detroit s60 14l
ColumbiaBob Offline


Registered: 12/09/11
Posts: 4
Loc: salt lake city, ut
this is in 05 freightliner columbia with detroit s60 14L EGR engine, with 755445 miles on engine and 10176 on oil delvac 15w40. I'm also using amsoil bypass filter for bigrigs. First time doing this. Did oil analysis at Speedco. Pls look over it and let me know how does it look. thx.


<2 Aluminium
<2 Chromium
3 Copper
3 Iron
<2 Lead
<2 TIN
15 Silicon
<2 Potassium
9 Sodium
33 Moly
<0.1 Water
2.0 Oxidation
14.4 Visc@100
- Glycol
<2.0 Fuel
8.5 TBN
6.3 Nitration
0.2 Soot

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#2498574 - 01/18/12 09:19 PM Re: delvac 15w40 10kmil detroit s60 14l [Re: ColumbiaBob]
Chris142 Offline


Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 10580
Loc: apple valley, ca
Put it back in!
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#2498584 - 01/18/12 09:23 PM Re: delvac 15w40 10kmil detroit s60 14l [Re: ColumbiaBob]
JRed Offline


Registered: 06/01/09
Posts: 1633
Loc: Virginia
Wow...
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#2498589 - 01/18/12 09:27 PM Re: delvac 15w40 10kmil detroit s60 14l [Re: ColumbiaBob]
azsynthetic Offline


Registered: 06/01/07
Posts: 1218
Loc: Phoenix AZ
Look at the soot number, the Amsoil bypass filter works per design.

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#2498869 - 01/19/12 04:36 AM Re: delvac 15w40 10kmil detroit s60 14l [Re: ColumbiaBob]
dnewton3 Offline



Registered: 05/14/07
Posts: 5389
Loc: Indianapolis, IN
Welcome to the site!

Outstanding UOA. No reason to change that oil. Continue to use as is, and get another UOA in another 10k miles.
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Conventionals vs. Synthetics isn't about which is "better"; it's about which lasts longer, while assuring safe operation, in relation to cost. Any product can be over or under utilized. The same applies to filters.
Make an informed decision; first consider your operating conditions, next determine your maintenance plan, and then pick your lube and filter. Don't do it the other way around ...

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#2509552 - 01/29/12 04:50 PM Re: delvac 15w40 10kmil detroit s60 14l [Re: ColumbiaBob]
ColumbiaBob Offline


Registered: 12/09/11
Posts: 4
Loc: salt lake city, ut
Update
Well just did analysis at speedco and here are the results
Truck mil 767714
Oil mil 17514
Mobil delvac

Aluminum 5
Chromium <2
Cooper 3
Iron 2
Lead <2
TIN <2
Silicon 6
Potassium 2
Sodium 7
Moly 35
Water <0.1
Oxidation 5.8
Visc@100 14.5
Glycol ND
Fuel <2.0
TBN 8.5
Nitration 2.6
Soot 0.3

Had to add less than a gal so far ,oxidation and aluminum went up is that normal?

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#2510210 - 01/30/12 10:14 AM Re: delvac 15w40 10kmil detroit s60 14l [Re: ColumbiaBob]
dnewton3 Offline



Registered: 05/14/07
Posts: 5389
Loc: Indianapolis, IN
Wow! Low soot; low wear; decent vis; high TBN. That load has life left in it.
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Conventionals vs. Synthetics isn't about which is "better"; it's about which lasts longer, while assuring safe operation, in relation to cost. Any product can be over or under utilized. The same applies to filters.
Make an informed decision; first consider your operating conditions, next determine your maintenance plan, and then pick your lube and filter. Don't do it the other way around ...

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#2522628 - 02/02/12 03:01 AM Re: delvac 15w40 10kmil detroit s60 14l [Re: ColumbiaBob]
mongo161 Offline


Registered: 07/11/10
Posts: 3155
Loc: Coney Island, NY
Outstanding results with Mobil Delvac! Thanks for posting both UOA's.
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#2523567 - 02/02/12 10:11 PM Re: delvac 15w40 10kmil detroit s60 14l [Re: ColumbiaBob]
ColumbiaBob Offline


Registered: 12/09/11
Posts: 4
Loc: salt lake city, ut
thx for comments, I used to change oil every 10k to 15k(before bypass filter and doing oil analysis), i'm not sure how far i can take this oil? I'm at 20k now, any suggestions? thx

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#2523749 - 02/03/12 06:22 AM Re: delvac 15w40 10kmil detroit s60 14l [Re: ColumbiaBob]
dnewton3 Offline



Registered: 05/14/07
Posts: 5389
Loc: Indianapolis, IN
Yes, actually I'd suggest you change your way of thinking.

Don't think about how many miles will limit your OCI. Rather, set condemnation limits for the lube and run as many miles as you can to get there.


For example, here is a thread with some limits from many of the major diesel engine makers:
http://www.calrecycle.ca.gov/Publications/UsedOil/2008020.pdf
Look at page 11 of the report.

You'll see that soot might be limited at 3%. Fe might be around 100ppm. Cu at 30ppm. Etc, etc.

Too many people do not understand how to use a UOA. The goal is NOT to get low wear numbers. The goal is to set safe, effective limits for the lube, and then operate the lube up to that safe level. Once you reach or get near a limit, then you change oil.

Don't limit your OCI; limit your lube!
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Conventionals vs. Synthetics isn't about which is "better"; it's about which lasts longer, while assuring safe operation, in relation to cost. Any product can be over or under utilized. The same applies to filters.
Make an informed decision; first consider your operating conditions, next determine your maintenance plan, and then pick your lube and filter. Don't do it the other way around ...

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#2607937 - 04/23/12 10:35 PM Re: delvac 15w40 10kmil detroit s60 14l [Re: ColumbiaBob]
Gene K Offline


Registered: 01/25/03
Posts: 3127
Loc: Decatur AL USA
Imcluded for reference. I know this post is a few months old.

www.ddcsn.com/cps/rde/xbcr/ddcsn/DDC-SVC-BRO-0001.pdf

Table 4.3

Standard Interval is 15,000 miles.

However notice the note at the bottom of the chart:
"The oil drain interval for Engines with EGR can be increased to 22,500 miles if the oil used is PGOS 93K218 or 93K214 approved".

Mobil Delvac 1300 CJ4 is on the 93K218 approved list.

With a Bypass Filter its possible with synthetic you wouldnt even have to change the filter. I think the biggest issue might be the

Here is an analysis with Rotella T3 (The cheap fleet oil but also PGOS 93K218 approved) in my Series 60 EGR with 22500 miles. This is without a bypass filter.

Code:
34 - Iron

1 - Chromium

0 - Nickel

2 - Aluminum

0 - Copper

2 - Lead

0 - Tin

0 - Cadmium

0 - Silver

0 - Vanadium

3 - Silicon

2 - Sodium

3 - Potassium

0 - Titanium

46 - Molybdenum

0 - Antimony

0 - Manganese

0 - Lithium

12 - Boron

1064 - Magnesium

1088 - Calcium

1 - Barium

1106 - Phosphorous

1360 - Zinc

<1.0 - Fuel Dilution % Vol

0.7 - Soot % Vol

<0.1 - Water % Vol

14.4 - Viscosity 100 C cSt

5.26 - Base Number mg KOH/g (D4739)

12 - Oxidation abs/cm

19 - Nitration abs/cm

Sample #1

18-Jul-2011 Date Sampled

27-Jul-2011 Date Received

28-Jul-2011 Date Tested

60 Days / 22,500 miles - Lube Time

519,388 miles (Odometer / Actual is 606,908) - Unit Time

Yes - Lube Change

1 gallon - Lube Added

Yes - Oil Filters Changed

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#2608022 - 04/24/12 01:05 AM Re: delvac 15w40 10kmil detroit s60 14l [Re: Gene K]
Gene K Offline


Registered: 01/25/03
Posts: 3127
Loc: Decatur AL USA
Originally Posted By: Gene K
Imcluded for reference. I know this post is a few months old.

www.ddcsn.com/cps/rde/xbcr/ddcsn/DDC-SVC-BRO-0001.pdf

Table 4.3

Standard Interval is 15,000 miles.

However notice the note at the bottom of the chart:
"The oil drain interval for Engines with EGR can be increased to 22,500 miles if the oil used is PGOS 93K218 or 93K214 approved".

Mobil Delvac 1300 CJ4 is on the 93K218 approved list.

Here is an analysis with Rotella T3 (The cheap fleet oil but also PGOS 93K218 approved) in my Series 60 EGR with 22500 miles. This is without a bypass filter.

Code:
34 - Iron

1 - Chromium

0 - Nickel

2 - Aluminum

0 - Copper

2 - Lead

0 - Tin

0 - Cadmium

0 - Silver

0 - Vanadium

3 - Silicon

2 - Sodium

3 - Potassium

0 - Titanium

46 - Molybdenum

0 - Antimony

0 - Manganese

0 - Lithium

12 - Boron

1064 - Magnesium

1088 - Calcium

1 - Barium

1106 - Phosphorous

1360 - Zinc

<1.0 - Fuel Dilution % Vol

0.7 - Soot % Vol

<0.1 - Water % Vol

14.4 - Viscosity 100 C cSt

5.26 - Base Number mg KOH/g (D4739)

12 - Oxidation abs/cm

19 - Nitration abs/cm

Sample #1

18-Jul-2011 Date Sampled

27-Jul-2011 Date Received

28-Jul-2011 Date Tested

60 Days / 22,500 miles - Lube Time

519,388 miles (Odometer / Actual is 606,908) - Unit Time

Yes - Lube Change

1 gallon - Lube Added

Yes - Oil Filters Changed







Ignore the following line in my original post. It was fragments of several sentences accidentally run together during editing: With a Bypass Filter its possible with synthetic you wouldnt even have to change the filter. I think the biggest issue might be the
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#2609599 - 04/25/12 04:22 PM Re: delvac 15w40 10kmil detroit s60 14l [Re: ColumbiaBob]
kenneth neeley Offline


Registered: 01/03/05
Posts: 54
Loc: London,KY
Our 60 series run on Delo 10w30 with no bypass filtration run 32kand drains along with the ISX. Mack E-7 and ACET operate on 28k drains with factory spinner. We currently have some older E7 engines with over 1.9 million on them without pulling heads or pan off.
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#3288766 - 02/20/14 06:40 PM Re: delvac 15w40 10kmil detroit s60 14l [Re: ColumbiaBob]
Chris142 Offline


Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 10580
Loc: apple valley, ca
Stevens out of mesquite TX was going 40K on delvac back in 1998.
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#3292101 - 02/23/14 07:24 PM Re: delvac 15w40 10kmil detroit s60 14l [Re: ColumbiaBob]
TiredTrucker Offline


Registered: 01/04/08
Posts: 734
Loc: Kellogg, IA
Impressive! And I thought my samples with Schaeffer 7000 15w40 in my S60 were pretty good. Well, they are, but yours are darn good also.

Only difference, is mine is getting Silicon levels at 2-3 ppm. Seems like you might not be getting good air filtration on the first sample, but it did drop on the second. Just an observation.
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