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#3287799 - 02/19/14 10:29 PM Trop Artic 5w-20, 14,102 Miles, 2005 Honda Civic
Sadaf Offline


Registered: 09/05/13
Posts: 6
Loc: OK
Planned on changing it at 12K but at 11K I was presented the opportunity for a long road trip so I figured I would go for it. Seems to have turned out OK.

Note: toward the end of my last OCI I thought I noticed a bit of start-up noise and the oil light staying on a little longer than just a flash. Figured it was my mind playing tricks on me because it was almost time to change plus I was debating leaving the filter for another interval per the manual. I left the filter and in less than 400 miles I was back under there swapping it out; it was not my mind playing tricks on me. I believe the ADBV weakened or failed so I was getting dry starts after it sat overnight. Perhaps these dry starts added a bit of wear and my next report will be better.

Regarding the silicon: yes it is on the high side of OK but it seems to be in line with other civics.

Enjoy!

Code:
LAB		NAPA/WIX

MAKE		HONDA
MODEL		CIVIC LX
ENGINE		1.7 SOHC
YEAR  		2005


OIL             TROP ARTIC	TROP ARTIC
WEIGHT		5W-20		 5W-20
MILES IN USE    14,102 		10,017          
MILES           158,278		144,176      
SAMPLE TAKEN    01/11/2014	06/22/2013
FILTER          PUREONE         PUREONE

IRON            11		7
CHROMIUM        <1		<1        
LEAD            3		3 
COPPER          11		3              
TIN             2		<1                
ALUMINUM        5		4     
NICKEL          <1 		<1 
SILVER          <1		<1 
TITANIUM        <1		<1           
VANADIUM	<1		<1                              
                 
SILICON         22		16                
SODIUM          17		5      
POTASSIUM  	6		<5
WATER 		<0.05		<0.05
COOLANT   	NO		NO  
         
MAGNESIUM       1 		8            
CALCIUM         2313 		2199 
BARIUM          <1 		<1
PHOSPHORUS      699		633            
ZINC            862		736          
MOLYBDENUM      81		64
BORON           32		52     
         
SUS VIS 210F   8.9		8.4        
TBN				1.7  
TAN		3.43


Previous Post:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...les#Post3133903


Edited by Sadaf (02/19/14 10:40 PM)
Edit Reason: Hyperlink Fixed

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#3287815 - 02/19/14 10:47 PM Re: Trop Artic 5w-20, 14,102 Miles, 2005 Honda Civic [Re: Sadaf]
01_celica_gt Offline


Registered: 07/29/13
Posts: 1265
Loc: St. Louis, MO
Originally Posted By: Sadaf
Planned on changing it at 12K but at 11K I was presented the opportunity for a long road trip so I figured I would go for it. Seems to have turned out OK.

Note: toward the end of my last OCI I thought I noticed a bit of start-up noise and the oil light staying on a little longer than just a flash. Figured it was my mind playing tricks on me because it was almost time to change plus I was debating leaving the filter for another interval per the manual. I left the filter and in less than 400 miles I was back under there swapping it out; it was not my mind playing tricks on me. I believe the ADBV weakened or failed so I was getting dry starts after it sat overnight. Perhaps these dry starts added a bit of wear and my next report will be better.

Regarding the silicon: yes it is on the high side of OK but it seems to be in line with other civics.

Enjoy!

Code:
LAB		NAPA/WIX

MAKE		HONDA
MODEL		CIVIC LX
ENGINE		1.7 SOHC
YEAR  		2005


OIL             TROP ARTIC	TROP ARTIC
WEIGHT		5W-20		 5W-20
MILES IN USE    14,102 		10,017          
MILES           158,278		144,176      
SAMPLE TAKEN    01/11/2014	06/22/2013
FILTER          PUREONE         PUREONE

IRON            11		7
CHROMIUM        <1		<1        
LEAD            3		3 
COPPER          11		3              
TIN             2		<1                
ALUMINUM        5		4     
NICKEL          <1 		<1 
SILVER          <1		<1 
TITANIUM        <1		<1           
VANADIUM	<1		<1                              
                 
SILICON         22		16                
SODIUM          17		5      
POTASSIUM  	6		<5
WATER 		<0.05		<0.05
COOLANT   	NO		NO  
         
MAGNESIUM       1 		8            
CALCIUM         2313 		2199 
BARIUM          <1 		<1
PHOSPHORUS      699		633            
ZINC            862		736          
MOLYBDENUM      81		64
BORON           32		52     
         
SUS VIS 210F   8.9		8.4        
TBN				1.7  
TAN		3.43


Previous Post:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...les#Post3133903


I hate this generation of civics.
That being said 10k on this oil on the conservative side
and 12k on the liberal.
Since I hate this generation i would do 12k
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#3287829 - 02/19/14 11:06 PM Re: Trop Artic 5w-20, 14,102 Miles, 2005 Honda Civic [Re: 01_celica_gt]
CivicLX Offline


Registered: 07/11/12
Posts: 69
Loc: FL
Very nice report! I am trying to decide my OCI. My last fill is in the signature. 4 miles one way commute (30-50 mph), plus a few miles during afternoon for the lunch.

At least 3 times, one way 10 miles highway (60-75 mph). sometimes idling in traffic..

What would the ideal OCI??
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#3287843 - 02/19/14 11:24 PM Re: Trop Artic 5w-20, 14,102 Miles, 2005 Honda Civic [Re: Sadaf]
HTSS_TR Online   content


Registered: 04/17/06
Posts: 14363
Loc: Lake Forest, CA
Very impressive report for 14k OCI, silicon is a little high.

Is this Trop Artic semi-syn or full syn ?
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#3287909 - 02/20/14 02:56 AM Re: Trop Artic 5w-20, 14,102 Miles, 2005 Honda Civic [Re: HTSS_TR]
01_celica_gt Offline


Registered: 07/29/13
Posts: 1265
Loc: St. Louis, MO
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
Very impressive report for 14k OCI, silicon is a little high.

Is this Trop Artic semi-syn or full syn ?


I thought Trop Artic was a semi-synthetic only.
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#3287910 - 02/20/14 02:59 AM Re: Trop Artic 5w-20, 14,102 Miles, 2005 Honda Civic [Re: CivicLX]
01_celica_gt Offline


Registered: 07/29/13
Posts: 1265
Loc: St. Louis, MO
Originally Posted By: CivicLX
Very nice report! I am trying to decide my OCI. My last fill is in the signature. 4 miles one way commute (30-50 mph), plus a few miles during afternoon for the lunch.

At least 3 times, one way 10 miles highway (60-75 mph). sometimes idling in traffic..

What would the ideal OCI??


Depends on the oil & driving conditions but on this synthetic blend oil 10k would be a sweet spot even if you get some random mildly severe interval.
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#3287975 - 02/20/14 06:40 AM Re: Trop Artic 5w-20, 14,102 Miles, 2005 Honda Civic [Re: Sadaf]
Rolla07 Offline


Registered: 11/05/11
Posts: 2128
Loc: MTL, CANADA
You didnt get a TBN reading?
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#3288274 - 02/20/14 11:08 AM Re: Trop Artic 5w-20, 14,102 Miles, 2005 Honda Civic [Re: Sadaf]
KCJeep Offline


Registered: 06/30/11
Posts: 5285
Loc: Mahzurrah!
Wow thanks for posting. I have a large stash of Trop Artic and I would have said these kind of OCI's were way too long for it. Still longer than I'd want to run it but I need to rethink my evaluation of it.

Thanks for posting this OP, we don't have near enough UOA's of everyday Joe kind of oils here IMO.
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#3289481 - 02/21/14 12:00 PM Re: Trop Artic 5w-20, 14,102 Miles, 2005 Honda Civic [Re: Sadaf]
2012AccentSE Offline


Registered: 10/08/13
Posts: 168
Loc: TEXAS
Another win for the Phillips 66 lubes! I use Kendall semi syn 5w20 and this gives me more re assurement that I have chosen a great oil smile Do you know what the major differences between Trop Arctic and Kendall are?
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#3289496 - 02/21/14 12:09 PM Re: Trop Artic 5w-20, 14,102 Miles, 2005 Honda Civic [Re: Sadaf]
KCJeep Offline


Registered: 06/30/11
Posts: 5285
Loc: Mahzurrah!
Kendall has a stronger add pack and is also the only 66 PCMO lube to use Titanium as far as I know.

All of the 66 lubes perform well though IMO, at $1.99 a quart the Trop Artic I buy is an absolute steal.
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#3292490 - 02/24/14 07:58 AM Re: Trop Artic 5w-20, 14,102 Miles, 2005 Honda Civic [Re: KCJeep]
badtlc Offline


Registered: 06/08/06
Posts: 4385
Loc: KC
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Kendall has a stronger add pack and is also the only 66 PCMO lube to use Titanium as far as I know.

All of the 66 lubes perform well though IMO, at $1.99 a quart the Trop Artic I buy is an absolute steal.


You pay too much! Since you are in the land of Ole Mizzou, orscheln's will put it on sale for $1.79 a few times a year in addition to their $1.99/qt sales.
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#3292527 - 02/24/14 08:32 AM Re: Trop Artic 5w-20, 14,102 Miles, 2005 Honda Civic [Re: badtlc]
01_celica_gt Offline


Registered: 07/29/13
Posts: 1265
Loc: St. Louis, MO
Originally Posted By: badtlc
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Kendall has a stronger add pack and is also the only 66 PCMO lube to use Titanium as far as I know.

All of the 66 lubes perform well though IMO, at $1.99 a quart the Trop Artic I buy is an absolute steal.


You pay too much! Since you are in the land of Ole Mizzou, orscheln's will put it on sale for $1.79 a few times a year in addition to their $1.99/qt sales.


1 SAMs club here has it for 1.37/qt.
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#3292734 - 02/24/14 11:53 AM Re: Trop Artic 5w-20, 14,102 Miles, 2005 Honda Civic [Re: badtlc]
KCJeep Offline


Registered: 06/30/11
Posts: 5285
Loc: Mahzurrah!
Originally Posted By: badtlc
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Kendall has a stronger add pack and is also the only 66 PCMO lube to use Titanium as far as I know.

All of the 66 lubes perform well though IMO, at $1.99 a quart the Trop Artic I buy is an absolute steal.


You pay too much! Since you are in the land of Ole Mizzou, orscheln's will put it on sale for $1.79 a few times a year in addition to their $1.99/qt sales.


Have not seen it lower than $1.99 at Orschelns in the last two years, that's where I buy it. Maybe prices vary.
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Napa Silver 31516
KIA Sedona 44k, Chevy Lumina 175k, Chrysler Sebring 175k, Chrysler Concorde 102k

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#3292906 - 02/24/14 02:36 PM Re: Trop Artic 5w-20, 14,102 Miles, 2005 Honda Civic [Re: 01_celica_gt]
ThirdeYe Offline


Registered: 02/23/07
Posts: 7777
Loc: Walker, MI
Originally Posted By: 01_celica_gt
Originally Posted By: Sadaf
Planned on changing it at 12K but at 11K I was presented the opportunity for a long road trip so I figured I would go for it. Seems to have turned out OK.

Note: toward the end of my last OCI I thought I noticed a bit of start-up noise and the oil light staying on a little longer than just a flash. Figured it was my mind playing tricks on me because it was almost time to change plus I was debating leaving the filter for another interval per the manual. I left the filter and in less than 400 miles I was back under there swapping it out; it was not my mind playing tricks on me. I believe the ADBV weakened or failed so I was getting dry starts after it sat overnight. Perhaps these dry starts added a bit of wear and my next report will be better.

Regarding the silicon: yes it is on the high side of OK but it seems to be in line with other civics.

Enjoy!

Code:
LAB		NAPA/WIX

MAKE		HONDA
MODEL		CIVIC LX
ENGINE		1.7 SOHC
YEAR  		2005


OIL             TROP ARTIC	TROP ARTIC
WEIGHT		5W-20		 5W-20
MILES IN USE    14,102 		10,017          
MILES           158,278		144,176      
SAMPLE TAKEN    01/11/2014	06/22/2013
FILTER          PUREONE         PUREONE

IRON            11		7
CHROMIUM        <1		<1        
LEAD            3		3 
COPPER          11		3              
TIN             2		<1                
ALUMINUM        5		4     
NICKEL          <1 		<1 
SILVER          <1		<1 
TITANIUM        <1		<1           
VANADIUM	<1		<1                              
                 
SILICON         22		16                
SODIUM          17		5      
POTASSIUM  	6		<5
WATER 		<0.05		<0.05
COOLANT   	NO		NO  
         
MAGNESIUM       1 		8            
CALCIUM         2313 		2199 
BARIUM          <1 		<1
PHOSPHORUS      699		633            
ZINC            862		736          
MOLYBDENUM      81		64
BORON           32		52     
         
SUS VIS 210F   8.9		8.4        
TBN				1.7  
TAN		3.43


Previous Post:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...les#Post3133903


I hate this generation of civics.
That being said 10k on this oil on the conservative side
and 12k on the liberal.
Since I hate this generation i would do 12k


Why do you hate that generation so much? I love the way the 2-door '01-'05 Civics look and drive.
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#3292978 - 02/24/14 04:02 PM Re: Trop Artic 5w-20, 14,102 Miles, 2005 Honda Civic [Re: ThirdeYe]
01_celica_gt Offline


Registered: 07/29/13
Posts: 1265
Loc: St. Louis, MO
Originally Posted By: ThirdeYe
Originally Posted By: 01_celica_gt
Originally Posted By: Sadaf
Planned on changing it at 12K but at 11K I was presented the opportunity for a long road trip so I figured I would go for it. Seems to have turned out OK.

Note: toward the end of my last OCI I thought I noticed a bit of start-up noise and the oil light staying on a little longer than just a flash. Figured it was my mind playing tricks on me because it was almost time to change plus I was debating leaving the filter for another interval per the manual. I left the filter and in less than 400 miles I was back under there swapping it out; it was not my mind playing tricks on me. I believe the ADBV weakened or failed so I was getting dry starts after it sat overnight. Perhaps these dry starts added a bit of wear and my next report will be better.

Regarding the silicon: yes it is on the high side of OK but it seems to be in line with other civics.

Enjoy!

Code:
LAB		NAPA/WIX

MAKE		HONDA
MODEL		CIVIC LX
ENGINE		1.7 SOHC
YEAR  		2005


OIL             TROP ARTIC	TROP ARTIC
WEIGHT		5W-20		 5W-20
MILES IN USE    14,102 		10,017          
MILES           158,278		144,176      
SAMPLE TAKEN    01/11/2014	06/22/2013
FILTER          PUREONE         PUREONE

IRON            11		7
CHROMIUM        <1		<1        
LEAD            3		3 
COPPER          11		3              
TIN             2		<1                
ALUMINUM        5		4     
NICKEL          <1 		<1 
SILVER          <1		<1 
TITANIUM        <1		<1           
VANADIUM	<1		<1                              
                 
SILICON         22		16                
SODIUM          17		5      
POTASSIUM  	6		<5
WATER 		<0.05		<0.05
COOLANT   	NO		NO  
         
MAGNESIUM       1 		8            
CALCIUM         2313 		2199 
BARIUM          <1 		<1
PHOSPHORUS      699		633            
ZINC            862		736          
MOLYBDENUM      81		64
BORON           32		52     
         
SUS VIS 210F   8.9		8.4        
TBN				1.7  
TAN		3.43


Previous Post:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...les#Post3133903


I hate this generation of civics.
That being said 10k on this oil on the conservative side
and 12k on the liberal.
Since I hate this generation i would do 12k


Why do you hate that generation so much? I love the way the 2-door '01-'05 Civics look and drive.


88-00 civics had the double wishbone suspension, I owned an 00 civic till 320k, and the suspension "looked" almost new when sold, ride felt the same during the 10 years i owned it. In 05 a family member got a 05 civic which drove significantly worse especially while cornering it. This phenomenon was confirmed by my family members.

If I remember correctly 01-05 are one the lowest rated civics on kbb, especially among honda enthusiasts.
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