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#2722836 - 08/23/12 08:45 AM Re: Any car owners with bypass and huge mileage? [Re: alexeft]
dnewton3 Offline



Registered: 05/14/07
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Loc: Indianapolis, IN
Agreed; small sumps and moderate OCIs cannot make expensive products meet the ROI. That often goes for syns, premium filters, additives, etc.

But some folks like the challenges, and they like to be "different". Absolutely nothing wrong with that.

I simply applaud using syns and bypass and UOAs for all the right reasons, which slalom44 is.
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#2723786 - 08/24/12 07:14 AM Re: Any car owners with bypass and huge mileage? [Re: dnewton3]
alexeft Offline


Registered: 02/06/10
Posts: 100
Loc: Greece
Of course, there is nothing wrong at all with this challenge and/or being different.

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#2730247 - 08/31/12 12:13 AM Re: Any car owners with bypass and huge mileage? [Re: alexeft]
azsynthetic Offline


Registered: 06/01/07
Posts: 1221
Loc: Phoenix AZ
Originally Posted By: alexeft

BTW, what is an M1 mesh? Some kind of filter with only a mesh inside?


http://www.system1filters.com/oilfilters.htm

The filter I bought back in 1993 was model M1. Still using it today.

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#2731725 - 09/01/12 02:16 PM Re: Any car owners with bypass and huge mileage? [Re: azsynthetic]
alexeft Offline


Registered: 02/06/10
Posts: 100
Loc: Greece
Hmmm, thanks!

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#2732320 - 09/02/12 06:54 AM Re: Any car owners with bypass and huge mileage? [Re: alexeft]
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Registered: 10/10/08
Posts: 14847
Loc: Sunny Florida
As we get virtually infinite engine life now with quality syn and a good filter changed exactly per OLM we have dropped the bypass set ups and never looked back.

If you want more things to potentially leak and more expenses with questionable benefits, I applaud your willingness to work.

I have engines out working every day with OVER 400k miles that run quiet, do not consume oil, and do not smoke or drip.

If you do not use UOA's to document the effectiveness then you are simply having fun, which is ok too.
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#2732435 - 09/02/12 09:42 AM Re: Any car owners with bypass and huge mileage? [Re: SteveSRT8]
alexeft Offline


Registered: 02/06/10
Posts: 100
Loc: Greece
Thanks for sharing your experience.

Fun is certainly part of the game and UOAs make it even funnier.

Still, the more I read about lubrication, the more I understand that dirt is a major enemy and I fail to understand what a good oil would do about it, excluding soot of course.


Edited by alexeft (09/02/12 09:46 AM)

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#2733095 - 09/03/12 12:19 AM Re: Any car owners with bypass and huge mileage? [Re: slalom44]
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Registered: 04/17/06
Posts: 12901
Loc: Irvine, CA
Originally Posted By: slalom44
I have 248,000 miles on my '03 Honda S2000 with an Amsoil BMK-13 dual remote bypass filter system and a prelube pump. I run Amsoil Signature Series 0W-30 oil with 40,000 mile OCIs. My car still runs like new and my UOAs are looking great.

I agree that the filter is the key, but it takes a good oil with a robust add pack to allow you to extend your OCIs enough to make it cost effective.

Bypass and main filter are very importance when you do 30-40k miles OCI's, when you follow Honda recommended 7.5k miles OCI's then OEM filter PCX-004 is more than adequate.

When I use syn oil in my LS400 I double the OCI interval to 1 year up to 14-15k miles, I use various low-mid range filters such as Purolator, Motorcraft ... The car is almost 300k miles now without any engine problem related to oil or anything else, even the valve cover gaskets are original.
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#2748220 - 09/19/12 11:08 AM Re: Any car owners with bypass and huge mileage? [Re: HTSS_TR]
EyesofThunder Offline


Registered: 02/24/10
Posts: 45
Loc: North Central Illinois
I have a GS400 and been running wix filters and 10k changes on synthetic oil. I have a bypass filter (no mount yet) on the shelf I am thinking about using. Just wondering if it is worth it. Only cost for me to go bypass is the mount.

I do drive 40k a year. And always welcome an increase in oil capacity.

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#2748420 - 09/19/12 03:24 PM Re: Any car owners with bypass and huge mileage? [Re: EyesofThunder]
alexeft Offline


Registered: 02/06/10
Posts: 100
Loc: Greece
I just had mine installed on my Prius. Nothing to report yet.

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#2754639 - 09/25/12 07:43 PM Re: Any car owners with bypass and huge mileage? [Re: alexeft]
Xerox_Guy Offline


Registered: 04/05/05
Posts: 23
Loc: Pensacola, FL
I only have 285,500 so far on the 4.3L chevy and have the Amsoil dual-remote setup. I change the Eao15 at 16K and the Ea015 and BP90 at 32K when I change the oil also. Oil reports look great and engine is dry. Am I saving tons of money? probably not but I drive 3K/month and I like doing my oil changes only once/year. At 32K oci and my time NOT under the truck I am sure I saving some! And btw - Only Amsoil Signature series 0W-30.

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#2754840 - 09/26/12 12:01 AM Re: Any car owners with bypass and huge mileage? [Re: alexeft]
mead Offline


Registered: 03/03/12
Posts: 17
Loc: california
Just as an opposite view

I have 96 dodge 2500 with cummins

319,000 miles (276,000)when I purchased

In its previous life, oil was seldom changed and truck was a shop truck for steel company. They did change the oil when they seized a turbo (from lack of lube)

I fixed the oil leak at the front seal dropped transmission, bigger injectors, turbo, dv's and timing on it.

I neither burn nor leak oil. I use a Baldwin dual flow filter that contains a bypass filter with 5,000 mile oci's

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#3025384 - 06/07/13 02:47 AM Re: Any car owners with bypass and huge mileage? [Re: alexeft]
biron Offline


Registered: 01/15/08
Posts: 19
Loc: minnesota
I've been coming to Bob's since early 2005 and after reading all I could I decided to put a Motorguard bypass on my 1999 Dodge Grand Caravan. At the time it had 200K miles on it. I am the original owner and up to that point I had used Amzoil and Mobil 1 with factory filters with an occasional oil analysis. The van ran great for the first 200K miles and I wanted to see how far it would go. Actually, at this point, I couldn't beleive it made it to 200K, especially after having heard all of the horror stories about Chysler minivan transmissions.

As of today, the van has 496K miles on it - almost 300K miles (eight years) with a bypass. Is the bypass the reason it's still runs like new? Who knows, but it's still running very strong.

I put a Trasko bypass and a Magfine inline filter on the tranny cooler lines at around 210K and the factory tranny lasted until 442K! Probably a world record for a Chrysler transmission.

I have tons of photos and all receipts for the life of the van to prove that it did in fact last this long and if it wasn't for the rust that is starting to take over, I think this van would go at least another couple hundred thousand more miles but I fear that the rust will be it's demise.

I have to thank all of the people here at BITOG for all the great postings and info that they share, I know it's helped me to learn a lot and I've had fun doing all the tinkering. When I hit 500K I'm going to shoot a video and edit it with all of the picturs I've taken of all the places this van has been and post it on YouTube. I should be hitting 500K in about a month and a half. I'll report back then.

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#3025620 - 06/07/13 09:05 AM Re: Any car owners with bypass and huge mileage? [Re: alexeft]
Jim Allen Offline


Registered: 08/12/05
Posts: 4477
Loc: NW Ohio
Thanks for the report!
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#3026084 - 06/07/13 03:40 PM Re: Any car owners with bypass and huge mileage? [Re: biron]
alexeft Offline


Registered: 02/06/10
Posts: 100
Loc: Greece
Originally Posted By: biron
I've been coming to Bob's since early 2005 and after reading all I could I decided to put a Motorguard bypass on my 1999 Dodge Grand Caravan. At the time it had 200K miles on it. I am the original owner and up to that point I had used Amzoil and Mobil 1 with factory filters with an occasional oil analysis. The van ran great for the first 200K miles and I wanted to see how far it would go. Actually, at this point, I couldn't beleive it made it to 200K, especially after having heard all of the horror stories about Chysler minivan transmissions.

As of today, the van has 496K miles on it - almost 300K miles (eight years) with a bypass. Is the bypass the reason it's still runs like new? Who knows, but it's still running very strong.

I put a Trasko bypass and a Magfine inline filter on the tranny cooler lines at around 210K and the factory tranny lasted until 442K! Probably a world record for a Chrysler transmission.

I have tons of photos and all receipts for the life of the van to prove that it did in fact last this long and if it wasn't for the rust that is starting to take over, I think this van would go at least another couple hundred thousand more miles but I fear that the rust will be it's demise.

I have to thank all of the people here at BITOG for all the great postings and info that they share, I know it's helped me to learn a lot and I've had fun doing all the tinkering. When I hit 500K I'm going to shoot a video and edit it with all of the picturs I've taken of all the places this van has been and post it on YouTube. I should be hitting 500K in about a month and a half. I'll report back then.


Wow!

Can't wait to hear and see what you have to say.

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#3284676 - 02/16/14 10:00 PM Re: Any car owners with bypass and huge mileage? [Re: alexeft]
biron Offline


Registered: 01/15/08
Posts: 19
Loc: minnesota
Ok, I finally hit 500,000 miles on the 1999 Grand Caravan. I shot a video of the odometer turning over from 499,999 to zero. Yup, it went to zero! I thought it would go to 500,000 but maybe Chrysler didn't expect these vehicles to make it to 500K. Here's the link to the video: http://youtu.be/G8x1obfdi44

In the time since it hit 500K in July of 2013, I've added another 18,000 miles.


Edited by biron (02/16/14 10:08 PM)

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