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#3280219 - 02/13/14 01:43 AM Re: Pure Gas vs. 10% E [Re: SatinSilver]
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TiredTrucker, Didn't you know improper crop rotation does more damage to the environment than dumping 500 million gallons of crude into the Gulf?

Get with it man.
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#3280223 - 02/13/14 02:07 AM Re: Pure Gas vs. 10% E [Re: turtlevette]
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Originally Posted By: turtlevette
TiredTrucker, Didn't you know improper crop rotation does more damage to the environment than dumping 500 million gallons of crude into the Gulf?


How does THAT become an either/or ?

Oh, it doesn't but it adds to your argument somehow...not the logic part, but the argument.

(wonder how many strawmen it takes to ensure national security)

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#3280262 - 02/13/14 04:36 AM Re: Pure Gas vs. 10% E [Re: markum]
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It would seem at least remotely possible that much more raw crude than mentioned has been dumped over the many years of the Earth's existence by vents and holes in the sea bottom.

Somehow we survived.

Strawmen abound here, logic not necessary in a "save the Earth" mindset...
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#3280319 - 02/13/14 06:45 AM Re: Pure Gas vs. 10% E [Re: turtlevette]
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Originally Posted By: turtlevette
TiredTrucker, Didn't you know improper crop rotation does more damage to the environment than dumping 500 million gallons of crude into the Gulf?

Get with it man.



Since you are an expert, then as a farmer, lay it out what is improper crop rotation. Never heard the term before, but always willing to learn. With the types of ag crops generally planted in my area of the country, Iowa, please outline a PROPER crop rotation plan so that we all can learn from it. Give us an outlay of the not only the crops that one would rotate properly, but also in what order they would be rotated properly. How would the your rotation plan increase the complimentary interaction of the various crops? How would your rotation plan decrease the impact on the soil conditions? Since you seem to think I need to "get with it", I need to find out what we have been doing wrong on the farm. I mean, our yields are easily double what they were on the same ground from 30 years ago, while the ground is more ecologically stable than when I was a child, as we are using no till farming techniques, soil analysis with computer controlled application rates for fertilizer which has greatly reduced the amount needed, targeted applications of herbicides to greatly reduce the amount there as well compared to years past. And no irrigation is used, and never has been. I am trying to figure out what we are doing so wrong according to you.
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#3280894 - 02/13/14 04:00 PM Re: Pure Gas vs. 10% E [Re: TiredTrucker]
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Originally Posted By: TiredTrucker

Since you are an expert,


No not at all. Attempting humor. That's it. I support your efforts 100%
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#3280947 - 02/13/14 04:40 PM Re: Pure Gas vs. 10% E [Re: markum]
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Ok, my bad... smile
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#3281566 - 02/14/14 07:24 AM Re: Pure Gas vs. 10% E [Re: markum]
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Typical here, as it is easy to be completely misunderstood via the typewritten word.
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#3294791 - 02/26/14 09:29 AM Re: Pure Gas vs. 10% E [Re: markum]
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Man it was nice being up in TN and able to buy pure gas for reasonable prices. While filling up I saw a lobbyist cry.
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#3295477 - 02/26/14 07:20 PM Re: Pure Gas vs. 10% E [Re: hatt]
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Originally Posted By: hatt
Man it was nice being up in TN and able to buy pure gas for reasonable prices. While filling up I saw a lobbyist cry.


How far into the backwater did you have to go to find "pure gas"? Pick me up some boiled peanuts and cracklins.

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#3295809 - 02/27/14 05:38 AM Re: Pure Gas vs. 10% E [Re: turtlevette]
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Originally Posted By: turtlevette
Originally Posted By: hatt
Man it was nice being up in TN and able to buy pure gas for reasonable prices. While filling up I saw a lobbyist cry.


How far into the backwater did you have to go to find "pure gas"? Pick me up some boiled peanuts and cracklins.



Excuse me, what did you say? I couldn't hear you under that thick blanket of snow...
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#3295848 - 02/27/14 07:06 AM Re: Pure Gas vs. 10% E [Re: markum]
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If I'd known you were going to be so mad I would have taken a picture. More bad news for you. I bought pure gas for the OPE yesterday. Three miles from the house(I live in New Yankeeville). It's too expensive to run in the truck but that's changing since we crushed the ethanol mandate last year. Won't be long before pure gas will be free flowing.


Edited by hatt (02/27/14 07:08 AM)
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#3296497 - 02/27/14 04:52 PM Re: Pure Gas vs. 10% E [Re: hatt]
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Originally Posted By: hatt
I bought pure gas for the OPE yesterday.


OPE? I don't know what that is but I bet it smells like an old man.

I can't imagine that anyone who drives a 4 cyl camry would care what they put in it or if you'd be able to tell any difference.

Hot rodders are going to want to run the E85 fuel. It's catching on because it makes more power and doesn't detonate in high compression engines. The bigger percentage ethanol we can get in gas the better our stuff is going to run because of the octane boost.

New Yankeeville? Dude the civil war is over and done with. You've got so many chips on your shoulder it must be hard to stand up straight.

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#3296846 - 02/27/14 10:01 PM Re: Pure Gas vs. 10% E [Re: hatt]
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Originally Posted By: hatt
It's too expensive to run in the truck but that's changing since we crushed the ethanol mandate last year. Won't be long before pure gas will be free flowing.


Thanks!! Really!! i can expect that the E85 I fuel up with regularly will stay $1 below gas price in my area like it has been. Not bad getting E85 for around $2.40 a gallon an d I only lose about 13-15% mpg compared to gas that is 30% higher. See, we can all work together to benefit each other.
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#3296874 - 02/27/14 10:40 PM Re: Pure Gas vs. 10% E [Re: TiredTrucker]
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Originally Posted By: TiredTrucker
Originally Posted By: hatt
It's too expensive to run in the truck but that's changing since we crushed the ethanol mandate last year. Won't be long before pure gas will be free flowing.


Thanks!! Really!! i can expect that the E85 I fuel up with regularly will stay $1 below gas price in my area like it has been. Not bad getting E85 for around $2.40 a gallon an d I only lose about 13-15% mpg compared to gas that is 30% higher. See, we can all work together to benefit each other.

I'm here to help. Running ethanol makes sense where it's produced in quantity. I'd be running it for $2.40. Shipping it all over the country to contaminate my gas so ADM and Monsanto's stock prices stay high doesn't. If it hadn't gone political, and drove up the price, it would have been a nice product for regional folks.


Edited by hatt (02/27/14 10:41 PM)
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#3297609 - 02/28/14 05:54 PM Re: Pure Gas vs. 10% E [Re: markum]
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Just fueled today with E85. Price $2.45. E10 going for 3.39, regular gas 3.62 and premium 3.84. I get premium performance for $1.40 lower and only lose about 15% fuel economy.

I agree, where it is practical, it makes sense. A lot of areas don't have such price spreads, so it may not be advantageous for them to do what I am doing. But I am using less gas so those that prefer it have more available to them! Ethanol is ideally a regional fuel. I don't think it needs to be sent all over the country either. One has to remember, that this all came about because MTBE, another fuel oxygenate, was severely polluting ground water, so ethanol was selected to replace it. Maybe not the most ideal choice, as butanol would have been a better alternative, but at least it doesn't pollute like MTBE does. As a side note, there is a move to take ethanol refining to the next step and formulate butanol. That ought to alleviate a lot of folk's concerns.
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