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#3317804 - 03/20/14 08:05 AM Re: Pure Gas vs. 10% E [Re: Shannow]
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#3393772 - 06/10/14 08:42 AM Re: Pure Gas vs. 10% E [Re: markum]
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Registered: 10/12/05
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Loc: Da Swamp
I've been running E0 in my cars for several years. The stuff is getting harder to find, and even harder to find at a reasonable cost (i.e., not greater than the % increase in gas mileage). Right now I'm having to run the A/C a lot, and will be until December, probably, so my mileage is off anyway.

My plan is to stick with one E0 station for two complete fillups, see what I get (my weekly driving schedule doesn't vary much in the summer), then try another E0 for the same length of time. Then I'll fill up with Walmart's E10, the lowest priced stuff in town, and compare. (Not a scientific test, no . . . but it keeps me entertained.)
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#3403178 - 06/21/14 05:37 PM Re: Pure Gas vs. 10% E [Re: markum]
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Registered: 01/04/08
Posts: 2432
Loc: Central Iowa
I think the E10 vs E0 thing really gets skewed so that the pricing is such that it makes it hard to compare the cost per mile based on the fuel. Since E10 gets mandated by various governmental agencies, the price really gets out of kilter, in that with the degraded mpg many experience with E10 compared to E0, the prices are not spread based on real market values enough to reflect that and make E10 a cost effective solution.

Seems the true value of using ethanol is realized when you get to the higher blends, where there is not really any mandates and less government meddling with pricing. That is why I like blender pumps in my area. I can get, E0 (regular and premium), E10 (regular and premium), E15, E20, E30 and E85... all at the same pump. I can compare pricing, I have run all of them and know the mpg I get from each one, and I can then see which offers me the lowest cost per mile to use and make that selection based on that day's price spread. E30 has shown to be the best overall value most times. I don't get much less mpg using E30 compared to E10, but the price is generally 10-15 cents a gallon cheaper. E85, mpg takes a major hit, so the price has to be 70-80 cents a gallon less than gas to make it worth while.

I just like having a flex fuel vehicle so that I can play around with all the various blends and find which works the best and has the lowest cost per mile.
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