Recent Topics
Funny Noise after Beating on Ram??
by thorromig
09/20/14 04:56 PM
Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5w20 VOA with TBN
by jseymour
09/20/14 04:52 PM
Lincoln jack
by supton
09/20/14 04:51 PM
buying aerosol spray cans of krown
by FXjohn
09/20/14 04:26 PM
replacement foam piece around radiator
by edwardh1
09/20/14 04:08 PM
The term 'oriental'
by L_Sludger
09/20/14 04:00 PM
Interesting ad from VW
by Rick in PA
09/20/14 03:40 PM
Tanker 912 (DC-10) downhill fire retardant drop!
by Drew99GT
09/20/14 02:39 PM
Oreilly $10 off $10 coupon email.
by laserred96gt
09/20/14 02:30 PM
Diff noise
by supton
09/20/14 02:19 PM
do you ever...
by joegreen
09/20/14 02:06 PM
Car fax
by ARB1977
09/20/14 02:00 PM
Newest Members
35ruger, pp4, WCW1, BamBam849, aerogt01
51361 Registered Users
Who's Online
76 registered (1345, 209paulc, 2oldtommy, 01rangerxl, 04SE, 87sammy, 7 invisible), 1827 Guests and 207 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
51361 Members
64 Forums
219540 Topics
3465011 Posts

Max Online: 2862 @ 07/07/14 03:10 PM
Donate to BITOG

Page 2 of 2 < 1 2
Topic Options
#3281725 - 02/14/14 10:10 AM Re: PEA and Amine-based Fuel System Additives [Re: MolaKule]
StevieBoy Offline


Registered: 08/06/12
Posts: 128
Loc: Central Florida
Excellent info! Love it. Thank you, thank you, thank you....
_________________________
2010 Grand Caravan SXT 4.0
Favorite: PU 5W-30 & Fram Ultra

Top
#3380078 - 05/24/14 02:20 PM Re: PEA and Amine-based Fuel System Additives [Re: MolaKule]
morris Offline


Registered: 08/24/08
Posts: 3681
Loc: ks, wichita
my mom told me that iam NEVER to old to learn. the older i get the more i know i dont know much at all. thanks.

Top
#3381923 - 05/27/14 04:18 AM Re: PEA and Amine-based Fuel System Additives [Re: MolaKule]
pbm Offline


Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 5196
Loc: New York
Thanks Molakule...great info as usual.

"It is believed that the polar polyetheramine’s attach to the hydrocarbon deposit and via thermodynamic activation, softens the carbon. The flowstream across the valves and inside the combustion chamber then blow the hydrocarbon deposits to the exhaust stream.

Increases in hydrocarbon loads not only exit the exhaust stream, but can also enter the oil. It is always a good idea to change the oil after using a strong fuel system cleaner."


This is what I've always believed and is the reason I run a PEA FSC near the end of my OCI. I also believe it is better to run it during short trip driving (several stop and starts to allow the PEA to 'soak in' to the valves etc...) rather than on a long highway drive. It seems like a long highway drive is a good thing subsequent to the FSC treatment (to blow out the previously softened carbon).

I've also always felt that using FSC's in warmer weather was more effective but I'm probably being anal....




Top
#3435356 - 07/25/14 02:05 PM Re: PEA and Amine-based Fuel System Additives [Re: MolaKule]
RF Overlord Offline


Registered: 11/08/03
Posts: 3120
Loc: Cape Cod, MA
Mola is da' MAN... thumbsup
_________________________
Supercharged '03 Mercury Marauder - Trilogy Motorsports #61
PP 5W-30 / MC FL820S

Y2K Grand Marquis GS - daily driver
MC 5W-20 / MC FL820S

Top
#3435616 - 07/25/14 06:24 PM Re: PEA and Amine-based Fuel System Additives [Re: MolaKule]
Rosetta Offline


Registered: 07/06/14
Posts: 211
Loc: Sta Catarina, Br
"Most amine compounds are made by the reaction of some form of ammonia, NH3, with other chemicals."

Witch other chemicals would be?
_________________________
1995 Ford Taurus 3.0 Vulcan 78k miles Mobil 1 5w30
1993 Subaru Impreza EJ16 121k miles Mobil 1 15w50
1997 Kawasaki Ninja ZX9R 38k miles Mobil 1 15w50

Top
#3436404 - 07/26/14 02:54 PM Re: PEA and Amine-based Fuel System Additives [Re: Rosetta]
MolaKule Offline


Registered: 06/05/02
Posts: 14510
Loc: Midwest
Originally Posted By: Rosetta
"Most amine compounds are made by the reaction of some form of ammonia, NH3, with other chemicals."

Witch other chemicals would be?


Too long a list to post here.

One can always consult an Organic Chemistry book and see some of the other compounds.

One could always start here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amine
_________________________
Good health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die. smile

Top
#3436582 - 07/26/14 06:26 PM Re: PEA and Amine-based Fuel System Additives [Re: Quest]
Clevy Offline


Registered: 11/11/10
Posts: 7209
Loc: Saskatoon canada
Originally Posted By: Quest
Mola,

Your valuable contribution to this BITOG community is highly appreciated as always.

Q.



I couldn't agree more.

Thanks Molekule
_________________________
2006 Charger RT
Miles x 2 per oil filter

Top
#3436819 - 07/26/14 10:13 PM Re: PEA and Amine-based Fuel System Additives [Re: MolaKule]
Rosetta Offline


Registered: 07/06/14
Posts: 211
Loc: Sta Catarina, Br
No, just look for most epoxy (like Araldite) glue, the hardener part is mostly PEA. Jeffamine D400 (Huntsman) or Baxxodur EC302 (BASF), they're pure PEA.
_________________________
1995 Ford Taurus 3.0 Vulcan 78k miles Mobil 1 5w30
1993 Subaru Impreza EJ16 121k miles Mobil 1 15w50
1997 Kawasaki Ninja ZX9R 38k miles Mobil 1 15w50

Top
#3436950 - 07/27/14 12:51 AM Re: PEA and Amine-based Fuel System Additives [Re: Rosetta]
MolaKule Offline


Registered: 06/05/02
Posts: 14510
Loc: Midwest
Originally Posted By: Rosetta
No, just look for most epoxy (like Araldite) glue, the hardener part is mostly PEA. Jeffamine D400 (Huntsman) or Baxxodur EC302 (BASF), they're pure PEA.


The current topic and the one that is the focus of this discussion
is PEA and Amine-based Fuel System Additives.

We're not discussing adhesives, curing agents, or cutting fluids or any other off-topic compound.
_________________________
Good health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die. smile

Top
#3437146 - 07/27/14 09:13 AM Re: PEA and Amine-based Fuel System Additives [Re: MolaKule]
Rosetta Offline


Registered: 07/06/14
Posts: 211
Loc: Sta Catarina, Br
I'm sorry, I thought I was discussing some PEA also, where it is also found. smile
_________________________
1995 Ford Taurus 3.0 Vulcan 78k miles Mobil 1 5w30
1993 Subaru Impreza EJ16 121k miles Mobil 1 15w50
1997 Kawasaki Ninja ZX9R 38k miles Mobil 1 15w50

Top
Page 2 of 2 < 1 2