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#3264353 - 01/29/14 09:40 PM How long to store oil
gzpzzr Offline


Registered: 01/17/14
Posts: 9
Loc: Pennsylvania, USA
Thanks for all the opinions and comments on a previous thread about whether to stay or go with Mobil 1. I have decided to move away and I have decided to go to PU 5W40 Euro(a Porsche A40 oil).

The deal that I am looking at is a 24qt box for $191. My question is how long I can store oil(in a temperature controlled environment) seeing as I am planning a 5K mile OCI which will equate to 5-6 months. I don't want to run the risk of the oil degrading(this was mentioned in the Motor Oil University series on the front page of the site by AE Haas)

Any commentary is again appreciated.
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#3264365 - 01/29/14 09:48 PM Re: How long to store oil [Re: gzpzzr]
Donald Offline


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You will have no problems. Your case will last you several years but not decades.
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#3264368 - 01/29/14 09:48 PM Re: How long to store oil [Re: gzpzzr]
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Oil has no shelf life. I don't know why Haas makes that claim, but you can email almost any oil manufacturer's tech support group and they'll say that there is no expiration date.

There are countless folks on here with jugs of oil from 5+ years ago that use it without a single problem. Heck, I wouldn't hesitate to use 10 year old oil as long as the bottle was sealed.
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#3264372 - 01/29/14 09:52 PM Re: How long to store oil [Re: dparm]
gregk24 Offline


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Originally Posted By: dparm
Oil has no shelf life. I don't know why Haas makes that claim, but you can email almost any oil manufacturer's tech support group and they'll say that there is no expiration date.

There are countless folks on here with jugs of oil from 5+ years ago that use it without a single problem. Heck, I wouldn't hesitate to use 10 year old oil as long as the bottle was sealed.


Pennzoil said 5 years when I emailed them...max.
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#3264374 - 01/29/14 09:54 PM Re: How long to store oil [Re: gregk24]
Doog Offline


Registered: 10/24/11
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Originally Posted By: gregk24
Originally Posted By: dparm
Oil has no shelf life. I don't know why Haas makes that claim, but you can email almost any oil manufacturer's tech support group and they'll say that there is no expiration date.

There are countless folks on here with jugs of oil from 5+ years ago that use it without a single problem. Heck, I wouldn't hesitate to use 10 year old oil as long as the bottle was sealed.


Pennzoil said 5 years when I emailed them...max.


Mobil said 5 years as well as long as the original containers are sealed and stored inside.
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#3264396 - 01/29/14 10:27 PM Re: How long to store oil [Re: Doog]
gzpzzr Offline


Registered: 01/17/14
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Loc: Pennsylvania, USA
So the last 2 responses actually validate Haas' comments, at least somewhat.

The 24qt box would last me 2.5 oil changes so I think it will be fine.

Thanks for the information
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#3264412 - 01/29/14 10:55 PM Re: How long to store oil [Re: gzpzzr]
Quattro Pete Offline


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Originally Posted By: gzpzzr
The deal that I am looking at is a 24qt box for $191.

Isn't it less expensive on Amazon?
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#3264447 - 01/30/14 12:13 AM Re: How long to store oil [Re: gzpzzr]
daves87rs Offline


Registered: 02/23/09
Posts: 15782
Loc: Michigan
Still finishing up my SM oil....
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#3264453 - 01/30/14 12:25 AM Re: How long to store oil [Re: Quattro Pete]
baseballcatcher7 Offline


Registered: 02/14/11
Posts: 26
Loc: South Carolina
It would be $181.12 for 24 qts on Amazon, so not a real money saver along with the fact that it will ship in 1 to 3 MONTHS. If you can get it quicker than that then the $10 more is worth it.

http://www.amazon.com/Pennzoil-550022576...ltra+euro+5w-40
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#3264461 - 01/30/14 01:02 AM Re: How long to store oil [Re: gzpzzr]
Wolf359 Offline


Registered: 04/27/12
Posts: 1924
Loc: MA
The reason they don't recommend more than 5 years is because the API grades will probably change in that time period. In theory it might be good for a longer period of time, but the oil makers don't really go out there and say it.

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#3264474 - 01/30/14 02:16 AM Re: How long to store oil [Re: Wolf359]
mongo161 Offline


Registered: 07/11/10
Posts: 3569
Loc: Coney Island, NY
IMO....very true. If people have stored oil in their stash, their is "no sale" for the company on current offerings.

Originally Posted By: Wolf359
The reason they don't recommend more than 5 years is because the API grades will probably change in that time period. In theory it might be good for a longer period of time, but the oil makers don't really go out there and say it.
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#3264551 - 01/30/14 07:26 AM Re: How long to store oil [Re: daves87rs]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
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Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Originally Posted By: daves87rs
Still finishing up my SM oil....

And one Walmart up here still has SM/GF-4 Edge on the shelf. I don't see Wakefield running out to save us from it. wink
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#3265374 - 01/30/14 09:32 PM Re: How long to store oil [Re: gzpzzr]
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Registered: 09/13/03
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Loc: Waterloo, ON
Castrol says 5 years when stored heated environment, or 2 years in unheated area..
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#3265449 - 01/30/14 11:04 PM Re: How long to store oil [Re: mongo161]
GaleHawkins Offline


Registered: 01/06/14
Posts: 584
Loc: Murray KY USA
Originally Posted By: mongo161
IMO....very true. If people have stored oil in their stash, their is "no sale" for the company on current offerings.

Originally Posted By: Wolf359
The reason they don't recommend more than 5 years is because the API grades will probably change in that time period. In theory it might be good for a longer period of time, but the oil makers don't really go out there and say it.


I agree. We cleaned out an old open garage recently and I found a 1/3rd of a gallon of Rotella 15W-40 that was at least 18 years old and this week I used a quart of it to top off a Ford big block engine in the dump truck because it looked and felt good.

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#3265525 - 01/31/14 03:03 AM Re: How long to store oil [Re: gzpzzr]
Mathson Offline


Registered: 12/06/12
Posts: 73
Loc: North Europe
IMO storage conditions present the biggest impact on the life of oil, not the time. Few yrs ago I came across a pile of synthetic ATF drums that where stored in a desert for two yrs. There was approx 5 inch layer of clear liquid on the surface (synthetic base oil), in the middle the stuff was more or less with the original colour of red and on the bottom you could find black junk that had to be scraped off of the drums after cutting them half and a little bit of water. These drums were with original seals.

So keep the temperature variations minimal.

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