Recent Topics
Kohler engine likes to burn oil as much as gas.
by cwatkin
1 minute 17 seconds ago
Front wheel bearing issue
by JHZR2
7 minutes 40 seconds ago
Preferences
by 01_celica_gt
31 minutes 40 seconds ago
91 Civic Hatch 3dr Si coolant hose
by Gito
Today at 10:19 PM
Who rev matches their downshifts?
by Klutch9
Today at 09:41 PM
'08 BMW 328xi, BMW 5W30, 10.5k OCI, 57k vehicle
by grumpyoldman
Today at 09:35 PM
1 yr, 3 yr, 5yr or since inception?
by bustednutz
Today at 08:45 PM
2009 Mustang 4.0 Tremec fluid
by Skeet6
Today at 08:35 PM
where to order slip on rocker panels
by eljefino
Today at 07:56 PM
Accords MPG on recent trip...
by gregk24
Today at 07:27 PM
Built in oven-microwave combination recommendation
by Pablo
Today at 07:26 PM
Motorcraft FL-820S - 10,173 miles
by OVERKILL
Today at 07:03 PM
Newest Members
SparkSVT, grumpyoldman, jbl_91762, PapasGuy, fanie
51170 Registered Users
Who's Online
81 registered (2004tdigls, 123Saab, 901Memphis, 01_celica_gt, 67King, 2010_FX4, 7 invisible), 1184 Guests and 246 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
51170 Members
64 Forums
218656 Topics
3447832 Posts

Max Online: 2862 @ 07/07/14 03:10 PM
Donate to BITOG

Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
#3256463 - 01/22/14 03:48 PM Classic VWs
Nick1994 Online   content


Registered: 02/19/13
Posts: 971
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
My aunt and I want to fix up an old VW Beetle. We are thinking of 60's and 70's but it has to run and have no rust (not so hard to find in Arizona). We're thinking in the $2000-2500 range or so, paint doesn't matter cause we'll have it repainted and interior doesn't matter too much either, just needs to have a good running foundation. What are some good years? Other than not being the most reliable thing on the road, what is there to know about them? It won't be a daily driver.

She's decided she has to have an old one to fit in with the other 2 TDI's.
_________________________
2004 VW Beetle TDI 159k
(Yeah it's a chick car but it gets me 40 mpg)

Top
#3256477 - 01/22/14 03:56 PM Re: Classic VWs [Re: Nick1994]
silverrat Offline


Registered: 01/09/09
Posts: 1193
Loc: Ontario
How much money do you plan on putting in it? 10k? 15k?

There's a '71 on pheonix Craigslist now that looks turnkey for $3900. Btw, I've never heard of someone restoring a car with their aunt before, that's different.


Edited by silverrat (01/22/14 04:01 PM)
_________________________
03 Civic Si - Assembled in Swindon, England
Pennzoil Platinum 5W20 - OEM Honda

Top
#3256506 - 01/22/14 04:28 PM Re: Classic VWs [Re: Nick1994]
sasilverbullet Offline


Registered: 08/22/04
Posts: 857
Loc: San Antonio, Tx
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
...Other than not being the most reliable thing on the road, what is there to know about them? It won't be a daily driver...


Yikes! I could literally write volumes on this subject - my suggestion - pay the money and get one you don't have to restore. You will never regret that!
_________________________
14 Honda Civic 4dr EX-L - Honda Synthetic 0W-20 for now
14 Honda Accord 4dr EX-L - Honda Synthetic 0W-20 for now
04 Nissan Titan - Amsoil 5W-30 XL

Top
#3256509 - 01/22/14 04:30 PM Re: Classic VWs [Re: Nick1994]
NHGUY Offline


Registered: 10/09/11
Posts: 3306
Loc: USA
I would stay away from Super Beetles,EFI and convertibles.Basically 71 and prior.Probably 69-71 with IRS rear.The swingaxle setup is dangerous.

Top
#3256513 - 01/22/14 04:43 PM Re: Classic VWs [Re: Nick1994]
simple_gifts Offline


Registered: 07/26/04
Posts: 8845
Loc: Middlesex County CT
Quote:

The swingaxle setup is dangerous.


The rest of the car, being a model of safety.... j/k.
_________________________
2003 Echo >340K miles;Supergard 5W-[23]0;
2006 B2300;88K;ALM

I prefer cats over dogs; Cats have the sense not to roll in their own poop

Top
#3256518 - 01/22/14 04:56 PM Re: Classic VWs [Re: Nick1994]
Chris142 Online   content


Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 11258
Loc: apple valley, ca
A day late! My dads 70 sat in his garage for 3 decades. Not a scratch or chip. Interier still had that vw smell. When i cleaned out the garage i practically gave it away just to get rid of it.
_________________________
02 Jeep Wrangler super-s 10/30
87 F250 Diesel Delo 15w40
04 Tahoe STHM 10w30
Z400 napa 15w50
KLR250 Maxima 10w40
Polaris Trailblazer delo 5w40

Top
#3256521 - 01/22/14 04:59 PM Re: Classic VWs [Re: Nick1994]
NMBurb02 Offline


Registered: 09/12/12
Posts: 1291
Loc: Crowntown, CA
Pre-'67 models are more desirable, and therefore more expensive. I prefer ~'62 and earlier due to the designs of the front fenders and taillights. Don't expect much for less than $2,500...probably won't even get you a running vehicle.

Pick up a copy of John Muir's "How to Keep Your Volkswagen Alive: A Manual of Step by Step Procedures for the Compleat Idiot" (affectionately referred to as the "Idiot's Guide") if you plan to restore or do any minor wrenching on an air-cooled veedub.

Also, check out http://www.thesamba.com/vw/, which has a classifieds section that will help you get a good idea of market values for vehicles in various conditions and locations.
_________________________
2002 Chevy Suburban 1500, G-Oil 5W-30, Napa Gold FIL 4805
2006 Pontiac Grand Prix GT, Valvoline ML NG 10W-30 +MMO, Puro PureOne PL10111

Top
#3256531 - 01/22/14 05:15 PM Re: Classic VWs [Re: silverrat]
Nick1994 Online   content


Registered: 02/19/13
Posts: 971
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
Originally Posted By: silverrat
How much money do you plan on putting in it? 10k? 15k?

There's a '71 on pheonix Craigslist now that looks turnkey for $3900. Btw, I've never heard of someone restoring a car with their aunt before, that's different.


Haha sounds weird I know. I'm 19, she wants a cool old Bug. My dad has done body work for 25 years and can help me out with that. She'll help with seats and carpet and "stuff to pretty it up"
_________________________
2004 VW Beetle TDI 159k
(Yeah it's a chick car but it gets me 40 mpg)

Top
#3256558 - 01/22/14 05:50 PM Re: Classic VWs [Re: Nick1994]
Nyati Offline


Registered: 10/22/12
Posts: 130
Loc: Dixieland
They are fun and easy to work on. I restored this 58 36HP convertible. I bought it for $100. Restored it over a 10 year period. Get a pre-67 one - they are all metal and a lot more rugged.


Top
#3256571 - 01/22/14 06:01 PM Re: Classic VWs [Re: Nick1994]
datech Offline


Registered: 01/14/14
Posts: 389
Loc: KS
I had a '66 but I always thought the '69 was the best. Bigger motor and better suspension, 12v system. Still had the classic body compared to the super beetle.

Top
#3256576 - 01/22/14 06:05 PM Re: Classic VWs [Re: Chris142]
Dwight_Frye Offline


Registered: 09/05/09
Posts: 88
Loc: California
Originally Posted By: Chris142
A day late! My dads 70 sat in his garage for 3 decades. Not a scratch or chip. Interier still had that vw smell. When i cleaned out the garage i practically gave it away just to get rid of it.


That's so weird that you mentioned "that VW smell", I swear when I read that I had a deja vu moment where I actually could smell what a mid-60's VW was like, having traveled many thousands of miles in them. It is very distinct and if you have smelled it you know what the OP and I am talking about.

Top
#3256710 - 01/22/14 07:54 PM Re: Classic VWs [Re: Nick1994]
Jarlaxle Offline


Registered: 02/02/12
Posts: 3923
Loc: New England
I thought "that VW smell" was the mix of unwashed, long-haired guys, burning oil, and ganja?

Or was that only the vans? laugh
_________________________
1979 Coupe de Ville, 542 stroker, Super Tech 15W40, Purolator
1995 Dakota, 5.2, Super Tech 10W-30, Purolator
2012 Suzuki AN400A, M1 10W-40, Suzuki

Top
#3256751 - 01/22/14 08:27 PM Re: Classic VWs [Re: Nick1994]
dareo Offline


Registered: 10/17/07
Posts: 451
Loc: utah
They still built new ones in mexico in the 2000s if you cant find a good old one to fix up.

Top
#3256770 - 01/22/14 08:38 PM Re: Classic VWs [Re: Jarlaxle]
Nick1994 Online   content


Registered: 02/19/13
Posts: 971
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
I thought "that VW smell" was the mix of unwashed, long-haired guys, burning oil, and ganja?

Or was that only the vans? laugh


Lol
_________________________
2004 VW Beetle TDI 159k
(Yeah it's a chick car but it gets me 40 mpg)

Top
#3256773 - 01/22/14 08:39 PM Re: Classic VWs [Re: Dwight_Frye]
Nick1994 Online   content


Registered: 02/19/13
Posts: 971
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
Originally Posted By: Dwight_Frye
Originally Posted By: Chris142
A day late! My dads 70 sat in his garage for 3 decades. Not a scratch or chip. Interier still had that vw smell. When i cleaned out the garage i practically gave it away just to get rid of it.


That's so weird that you mentioned "that VW smell", I swear when I read that I had a deja vu moment where I actually could smell what a mid-60's VW was like, having traveled many thousands of miles in them. It is very distinct and if you have smelled it you know what the OP and I am talking about.


Not sure what the smell is in a classic VW, but I know the new ones smell like Crayons. Horse hair in the leather seats.
_________________________
2004 VW Beetle TDI 159k
(Yeah it's a chick car but it gets me 40 mpg)

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >