How do you feel about the use of Teflon in this filter? I am not interested in hearing about the inferiority of Fram. I see enough of it at this forum
I am concerned about the use of Teflon. What do you guys think?
Fram Doubleguard w/ Teflon
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DuPont themselves said that an internal combustion engine is no place for Teflon. Keep it on the frying pan!
I like Teflon treated air filters (my Hoover vacuum cleaner has one), they are easier to clean.
Teflon in an oil filter? I just don't get it.
Teflon in an oil filter? I just don't get it.
Teflon is a no-no. It doesn't bond to metal until heated to an extremely high temp........far higher than your oil will ever see. The particles tend to clump and clog anything it can. And using teflon in an oil filter??????
.......I just don't get why we would want a pre-clogged filter.
I agree with everyone else, this is just a marketing gimmik to enhance the image of the product. Snake oil at its finest.
It always bothers me that the local auto parts stores even carry this garbage and other crap like Z-max and Prolong oil additives...
It always bothers me that the local auto parts stores even carry this garbage and other crap like Z-max and Prolong oil additives...
NASA tests from some years back confirmed that Teflon in oil additives is a solid (not a liquid) and doesn't bond to engine surfaces as claimed. A specific physical process is used -- and required -- to bond Teflon onto items like frying pans, none of which takes place with a motor oil additive.
[ April 25, 2004, 10:27 PM: Message edited by: TC ]
[ April 25, 2004, 10:27 PM: Message edited by: TC ]
Pure unadulterated BS. Slick-50 made a fortune off this scam and Fram wanted in on the "party".
Quaker State then bought Slick-50 after which Shell bought Quaker State. Shell is still enjoying making money off of unsuspecting Slick-50 customers.
Sickening.
John
Quaker State then bought Slick-50 after which Shell bought Quaker State. Shell is still enjoying making money off of unsuspecting Slick-50 customers.
Sickening.
John
Do you think the use of this filter could cause damage to the engine? Or is the Teflon a useless, but harmless additive?
Teflon is an additive, that is possibly harmful to an engine. I am not commenting on the "fram" part of the equation.
The NASA tests confirmed:
-That Teflon will not bond to engine parts.
-It does not reduce wear.
-That it does increase gas mileage to a very small extent.
-In some circumstances, it can partially constrict/clog small oil passages, believe it or not.
But as mentioned before, you're still dealing with a Fram filter. No harm in using Teflon most likely, but it's an unnecessary and unhelpful additive, and the overall construction of the orange beast is clearly inferior.
-That Teflon will not bond to engine parts.
-It does not reduce wear.
-That it does increase gas mileage to a very small extent.
-In some circumstances, it can partially constrict/clog small oil passages, believe it or not.
But as mentioned before, you're still dealing with a Fram filter. No harm in using Teflon most likely, but it's an unnecessary and unhelpful additive, and the overall construction of the orange beast is clearly inferior.
axjohn,
The teflon is in the Fram Double Guard filter and not just the gasket. This is directly from Frams' web-site:
The FRAM Double Guard oil filter does just that, and more. The Double Guard filter is the only oil filter to contain DuPont Teflon® PTFE – the same Teflon®* PTFE as found in many of the leading oil additives. So not only does the Double Guard product filter out the harmful dirt that can corrode your engine, for those consumers who would like to use a Teflon® additive, the Double Guard filter provides a way to distribute it to your engine.
* TEFLON is a registered trademark of E.I. DuPont de Nemours and Co. used under license to Honeywell.
The teflon is in the Fram Double Guard filter and not just the gasket. This is directly from Frams' web-site:
The FRAM Double Guard oil filter does just that, and more. The Double Guard filter is the only oil filter to contain DuPont Teflon® PTFE – the same Teflon®* PTFE as found in many of the leading oil additives. So not only does the Double Guard product filter out the harmful dirt that can corrode your engine, for those consumers who would like to use a Teflon® additive, the Double Guard filter provides a way to distribute it to your engine.
* TEFLON is a registered trademark of E.I. DuPont de Nemours and Co. used under license to Honeywell.
Interesting how similar that wording is to the wording cigarette manufacturers use in their advertising these days. "For those who choose to smoke .... "
John
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