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#3254401 - 01/20/14 08:04 PM VAG 2.0T vs 3.0T reliability
Quattro Pete Offline


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Strictly from a long term reliability perspective, is one of these engines better than the other?
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#3254511 - 01/20/14 09:44 PM Re: VAG 2.0T vs 3.0T reliability [Re: Quattro Pete]
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Are you referring to the 3.0TFSI? (supercharged 3.0L V6)

If so, it's pretty solid. It's Audi's workhorse motor that's been used in nearly every model in a variety of configurations for many many years. The very early years did have some minor issues with plastic impellers on the water pumps, but a revised part was released and cars were recalled. They don't suffer from carbon buildup problems like the older FSI motors, but Audi still extended some additional warranty coverage/preventative maintenance just in case.

And if you want more power, they can very easily crank out 400hp+ with a simple tune from Stasis, APR, GIAC, etc. 450-500 is reachable with the tune, exhaust, and some other bolt-on upgrades.
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#3254729 - 01/21/14 07:20 AM Re: VAG 2.0T vs 3.0T reliability [Re: dparm]
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Originally Posted By: dparm
If so, it's pretty solid.

Right, but would you say it's more solid than the currently offered 2.0T?

Not really looking into running aftermarket tune on either one.
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#3254929 - 01/21/14 10:33 AM Re: VAG 2.0T vs 3.0T reliability [Re: Quattro Pete]
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: dparm
If so, it's pretty solid.

Right, but would you say it's more solid than the currently offered 2.0T?

Not really looking into running aftermarket tune on either one.



I think both are very strong motors. There's a reason they put them in pretty much every model.

My gut tells me that the V6 is the more reliable one since it seems to be a bit less high-strung. I think it's way overbuilt from the factory which is why you can easily squeeze 500hp out of stock internals.
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#3254932 - 01/21/14 10:39 AM Re: VAG 2.0T vs 3.0T reliability [Re: Quattro Pete]
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Thanks!

Wife is potentially looking at a Q5/SQ5.
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#3254962 - 01/21/14 11:11 AM Re: VAG 2.0T vs 3.0T reliability [Re: Quattro Pete]
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the 3.0T is an awesome motor which has been on ward best 10 list for 5 consec years.

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#3255146 - 01/21/14 01:45 PM Re: VAG 2.0T vs 3.0T reliability [Re: Quattro Pete]
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Thanks!

Wife is potentially looking at a Q5/SQ5.



oooh, a 'squive', very favorably reviewed in the new Car and Driver.
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#3255159 - 01/21/14 01:58 PM Re: VAG 2.0T vs 3.0T reliability [Re: SteveSRT8]
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Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
oooh, a 'squive', very favorably reviewed in the new Car and Driver.

Yeah, well, I've got somewhat mixed feelings about it. On one hand, the extra hp/torque as well as some of the features of SQ5 are nice, but on the other hand MPG takes a further dive (3.0T MPG isn't anything to write home about either), and it comes with either 20" or 21" rims instead of 18" on the Q5. I would want this vehicle to be able to take a pothole "like a man" and not have to deal with bent rims or suspension components. Besides, the wife would never take advantage of the extra power anyway.

Cute looks, navigation, and rearview camera - that's about all she cares for. smile
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#3255171 - 01/21/14 02:08 PM Re: VAG 2.0T vs 3.0T reliability [Re: Quattro Pete]
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
oooh, a 'squive', very favorably reviewed in the new Car and Driver.

Yeah, well, I've got somewhat mixed feelings about it. On one hand, the extra hp/torque as well as some of the features of SQ5 are nice, but on the other hand MPG takes a further dive (3.0T MPG isn't anything to write home about either), and it comes with either 20" or 21" rims instead of 18" on the Q5. I would want this vehicle to be able to take a pothole "like a man" and not have to deal with bent rims or suspension components. Besides, the wife would never take advantage of the extra power anyway.

Cute looks, navigation, and rearview camera - that's about all she cares for. smile


NP, the regular model still has most of the baked in goodness that Audis offer anyway.

BTW, as long as the rims are factory equipment they are unlikely to cause problems. Just watch out for the curb! I have hit HUGE potholes with the factory 20's on my car and it didn't hurt a thing...


Edited by SteveSRT8 (01/21/14 02:08 PM)
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#3255180 - 01/21/14 02:17 PM Re: VAG 2.0T vs 3.0T reliability [Re: SteveSRT8]
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Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
BTW, as long as the rims are factory equipment they are unlikely to cause problems.

One of the OEM rims on her c300 is bent, and yeah, they're all scratched pretty badly. She seems to love the curbs. smile

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#3255191 - 01/21/14 02:23 PM Re: VAG 2.0T vs 3.0T reliability [Re: Quattro Pete]
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Sadly the SQ5 TDI is not sold here:

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2013-audi-sq5-tdi-first-drive-review



I just looked and for 2014 they're now selling the Q5 in the US with the 3.0TFSI (non-SQ5, so detuned) and the 3.0 TDI. Both have the 8-speed trans with a 0.667:1 8th gear. The TDI is rated at 31mpg highway, which is pretty impressive for a 4400lb SUV with all-wheel drive.

Anecdotally I can tell you that my S4 with the 7-speed S tronic was handily beating the claimed MPG numbers on the highway.
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#3255201 - 01/21/14 02:34 PM Re: VAG 2.0T vs 3.0T reliability [Re: Quattro Pete]
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^^^You can bet the ZF 8 speed will beat those EPA numbers as well!
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#3255212 - 01/21/14 02:50 PM Re: VAG 2.0T vs 3.0T reliability [Re: SteveSRT8]
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Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
^^^You can bet the ZF 8 speed will beat those EPA numbers as well!


I'm just disappointed that the S tronic gearbox wasn't selected for the SQ5. The ZF is a fine gearbox but it still can't match the dual-clutch.
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#3255221 - 01/21/14 02:55 PM Re: VAG 2.0T vs 3.0T reliability [Re: dparm]
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Originally Posted By: dparm
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
^^^You can bet the ZF 8 speed will beat those EPA numbers as well!


I'm just disappointed that the S tronic gearbox wasn't selected for the SQ5. The ZF is a fine gearbox but it still can't match the dual-clutch.


Just depends what you are trying to 'match'.

BMW, Audi, Bentley, Jaguar, the list grows every year. I'd say the ZF slushbox must be pretty nifty (and versatile!) ...
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#3256278 - 01/22/14 01:11 PM Re: VAG 2.0T vs 3.0T reliability [Re: Quattro Pete]
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Non-withstanding your "handle", Q-Pete, with a BMW, a Mercedes and a Lexus (?) in the garage the prospect of an SQ5 can only mean you wish to establish a closer relationship with the local Audi Service Department...

Aren't those a little few and far between in Illinoistan? Outside of The Second City, that is?

Cheers!

p.s. That was an interesting take in Car & Driver. 0-60mph in plenty (?) of time to get you in trouble!
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