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#3254671 - 01/21/14 04:44 AM The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru
SkyActivG Offline


Registered: 10/15/13
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As the title states... I'd like to get some thoughts of Mazda and Subaru. Both of these companies participated in WWIII; however Subaru was formally Nakajima Aircraft which made aircraft for WWII. Please correct me if I'm wrong.... Something makes me what to think Mitsubishi was part of WWII. I am ?uncertain of Mazda's role in WIII because Mazda started off in the US with rotary powered scooters. Please elaborate everyone. Are these the only current Japanese companies that were involved in WWII?

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#3254672 - 01/21/14 04:48 AM Re: The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru [Re: SkyActivG]
Deltona_Dave Offline


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Mitsubishi made the infamous A6M "Zero" aircraft during WWII.
Mazda made the Type 99 Rifles for Japan and some other weapons.
Dave


Edited by Deltona_Dave (01/21/14 04:55 AM)
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#3254673 - 01/21/14 04:51 AM Re: The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru [Re: SkyActivG]
eljefino Offline


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Everyone was involved in WWII. Industry was basically drafted the same as manpower.

The war's over. I can't personally hold any company responsible for something they were compelled into doing by an emporer who later personally surrendered.

If Mitsubishi hadn't made airplanes their tooling would have been seized and run by the government anyway. It's probably semantics if they were or weren't anyway, with materials allocations etc.

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#3254674 - 01/21/14 04:53 AM Re: The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru [Re: SkyActivG]
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http://www.famouslogos.net/subaru-logo/

Can't hold them to WWII, but some say their logo is due to Aliens.

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#3254684 - 01/21/14 05:27 AM Re: The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru [Re: SkyActivG]
Deltona_Dave Offline


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I agree with eljefino. During the war, most, if not all Japanese companies were involved in the war effort, voluntary or not. I will not hold what happened 70 years ago, against them. I would rather buy a product made in Japan over China any day.

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#3254691 - 01/21/14 06:14 AM Re: The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru [Re: SkyActivG]
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No different than Mercedes (Daimler Benz), BMW and VW. All made war vehicles for the Hitler regime. Germany, however, has the very dark side of companies that collaborated in the Holocaust. They dealt in human hair, gold from dental fillings, etc and they are still around today.

Google I. G. Farben and see what they were involved in.
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#3254692 - 01/21/14 06:18 AM Re: The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru [Re: SkyActivG]
Shannow Offline


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Can also google some elder shrubs, bankers, and auto manufacturers who "helped"

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#3254697 - 01/21/14 06:23 AM Re: The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru [Re: SkyActivG]
KrisZ Offline


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Guys news flash, all countries operate this way. If a company has the assets to assist in the war effort they will be drafted. Germany, US, Japan, Britain, Canada and all other countries during WWII did it and in the event of all-out war today, the same strategy would be used as well.

If someone holds a grudge against certain companies, be it German, Japanese or Italian for their involvement in war effort, they should also hold US, British and French companies to the same standard as well.


Edited by KrisZ (01/21/14 06:24 AM)
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#3254698 - 01/21/14 06:23 AM Re: The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru [Re: SkyActivG]
Bottom_Feeder Offline


Registered: 12/07/08
Posts: 2148
Loc: Occupied Virginia
What exactly is the point of your question? How old are you?

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#3254699 - 01/21/14 06:26 AM Re: The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru [Re: SkyActivG]
Pop_Rivit Offline


Registered: 02/09/08
Posts: 5509
Loc: Midwest
Originally Posted By: SkyActivG
As the title states... I'd like to get some thoughts of Mazda and Subaru. Both of these companies participated in WWIII; however Subaru was formally Nakajima Aircraft which made aircraft for WWII. Please correct me if I'm wrong.... Something makes me what to think Mitsubishi was part of WWII. I am ?uncertain of Mazda's role in WIII because Mazda started off in the US with rotary powered scooters. Please elaborate everyone. Are these the only current Japanese companies that were involved in WWII?


It's utterly meaningless in today's world. Henry Ford had some anti-Semitic views, but along with your Mazda and Subaru question, it isn't relevant in today's world. If you dig deep enough you can probably find "dirt" on any automotive company or it's management, especially ones that have been around for nearly a century.

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#3254700 - 01/21/14 06:26 AM Re: The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru [Re: Boomer]
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Registered: 04/15/10
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Loc: Atlanta,GA
Originally Posted By: Boomer
No different than Mercedes (Daimler Benz), BMW and VW. All made war vehicles for the Hitler regime. Germany, however, has the very dark side of companies that collaborated in the Holocaust. They dealt in human hair, gold from dental fillings, etc and they are still around today.

Google I. G. Farben and see what they were involved in.


Don't forget IBM and Bayer.
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#3254704 - 01/21/14 06:36 AM Re: The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru [Re: SkyActivG]
rjundi Offline


Registered: 03/16/04
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I heard they both killed babies......

smirk

moving on
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#3254708 - 01/21/14 06:45 AM Re: The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru [Re: SkyActivG]
d00df00d Offline


Registered: 10/20/05
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If we never moved on from past conflicts, there'd be no incentive to end them in the first place. Please don't go digging for century-old dirt on parties that are no longer doing anything wrong.
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#3254717 - 01/21/14 07:08 AM Re: The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru [Re: SkyActivG]
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I'm not sure why such a question has to be asked here... when there's a internet full of information that is available on the topic.

We don't need to look elsewhere. Henry Ford was a tyrant in his own ways, and didn't see anything wrong with it.
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#3254722 - 01/21/14 07:13 AM Re: The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru [Re: mrsilv04]
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Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
I'm not sure why such a question has to be asked here... when there's a internet full of information that is available on the topic.

We don't need to look elsewhere. Henry Ford was a tyrant in his own ways, and didn't see anything wrong with it.


So is our current "president" and he doesn't seem to see anything wrong with it either.
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