Recent Topics
Happy Birthday dave1251
by Garak
2 minutes 40 seconds ago
Secret Service screw up at White House 2011
by Apollo14
59 minutes 11 seconds ago
Mixing more than two types of oil
by Zako2
Today at 01:55 AM
2010 Jeep Commander
by HWEaton
Yesterday at 10:00 PM
General Altimax Arctics
by HWEaton
Yesterday at 09:40 PM
New Nitto Terra Grappler G2
by HWEaton
Yesterday at 09:33 PM
What is it with...
by Pop_Rivit
Yesterday at 09:26 PM
How important are filtering efficiency specs?
by Noey
Yesterday at 09:15 PM
WM: Tuff-Stuff cleaner $3/can (nt)
by sleddriver
Yesterday at 08:15 PM
Napa Gold Or Wix Filters?
by crazyoildude
Yesterday at 07:55 PM
2013 Mazda 3 SkyActiv, M1 AFE 0w-20, 12,832 miles
by The Critic
Yesterday at 07:50 PM
How To Professionally Detail A Vehicle
by Warstud
Yesterday at 07:49 PM
Newest Members
rmp, PAssatGuy, mcn1970, KCChemist, bbuice
51461 Registered Users
Who's Online
20 registered (eljefino, Clevy, 01_celica_gt, 3800Series, Apollo14, 2 invisible), 592 Guests and 146 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
51461 Members
64 Forums
220103 Topics
3475878 Posts

Max Online: 2862 @ 07/07/14 03:10 PM
Donate to BITOG

Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >
Topic Options
#3254671 - 01/21/14 04:44 AM The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru
SkyActivG Offline


Registered: 10/15/13
Posts: 53
Loc: Maryland
As the title states... I'd like to get some thoughts of Mazda and Subaru. Both of these companies participated in WWIII; however Subaru was formally Nakajima Aircraft which made aircraft for WWII. Please correct me if I'm wrong.... Something makes me what to think Mitsubishi was part of WWII. I am ?uncertain of Mazda's role in WIII because Mazda started off in the US with rotary powered scooters. Please elaborate everyone. Are these the only current Japanese companies that were involved in WWII?

Top
#3254672 - 01/21/14 04:48 AM Re: The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru [Re: SkyActivG]
Deltona_Dave Offline


Registered: 02/01/10
Posts: 773
Loc: Deltona, FL USA
Mitsubishi made the infamous A6M "Zero" aircraft during WWII.
Mazda made the Type 99 Rifles for Japan and some other weapons.
Dave


Edited by Deltona_Dave (01/21/14 04:55 AM)
_________________________
2009 Volkswagen GTI 6 Manual.
2005 Chrysler Sebring Convertible Touring.
2011 Ford Fiesta 6 spd DCT.



Top
#3254673 - 01/21/14 04:51 AM Re: The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru [Re: SkyActivG]
eljefino Online   content


Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 23997
Loc: ME
Everyone was involved in WWII. Industry was basically drafted the same as manpower.

The war's over. I can't personally hold any company responsible for something they were compelled into doing by an emporer who later personally surrendered.

If Mitsubishi hadn't made airplanes their tooling would have been seized and run by the government anyway. It's probably semantics if they were or weren't anyway, with materials allocations etc.

Top
#3254674 - 01/21/14 04:53 AM Re: The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru [Re: SkyActivG]
Shannow Offline


Registered: 12/12/02
Posts: 26593
Loc: a prison island
http://www.famouslogos.net/subaru-logo/

Can't hold them to WWII, but some say their logo is due to Aliens.

Top
#3254684 - 01/21/14 05:27 AM Re: The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru [Re: SkyActivG]
Deltona_Dave Offline


Registered: 02/01/10
Posts: 773
Loc: Deltona, FL USA
I agree with eljefino. During the war, most, if not all Japanese companies were involved in the war effort, voluntary or not. I will not hold what happened 70 years ago, against them. I would rather buy a product made in Japan over China any day.

Dave
_________________________
2009 Volkswagen GTI 6 Manual.
2005 Chrysler Sebring Convertible Touring.
2011 Ford Fiesta 6 spd DCT.



Top
#3254691 - 01/21/14 06:14 AM Re: The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru [Re: SkyActivG]
Boomer Offline


Registered: 09/19/08
Posts: 1649
Loc: Pennsylvania
No different than Mercedes (Daimler Benz), BMW and VW. All made war vehicles for the Hitler regime. Germany, however, has the very dark side of companies that collaborated in the Holocaust. They dealt in human hair, gold from dental fillings, etc and they are still around today.

Google I. G. Farben and see what they were involved in.
_________________________
2003 Saturn L 300 117,200 miles
2013 VW Passat TDI SE, 16,700miles
2014 VW Jetta TDI SportWagen 3350 miles

Top
#3254692 - 01/21/14 06:18 AM Re: The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru [Re: SkyActivG]
Shannow Offline


Registered: 12/12/02
Posts: 26593
Loc: a prison island
Can also google some elder shrubs, bankers, and auto manufacturers who "helped"

Top
#3254697 - 01/21/14 06:23 AM Re: The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru [Re: SkyActivG]
KrisZ Offline


Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 4267
Loc: Toronto, Canada
Guys news flash, all countries operate this way. If a company has the assets to assist in the war effort they will be drafted. Germany, US, Japan, Britain, Canada and all other countries during WWII did it and in the event of all-out war today, the same strategy would be used as well.

If someone holds a grudge against certain companies, be it German, Japanese or Italian for their involvement in war effort, they should also hold US, British and French companies to the same standard as well.


Edited by KrisZ (01/21/14 06:24 AM)
_________________________
2006 Mazda3 2.0 - 190,000 Km
2003 Ford Focus ZX5 2.0 Zetec - 160,000Km
Both on good old dino juice smile

Top
#3254698 - 01/21/14 06:23 AM Re: The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru [Re: SkyActivG]
Bottom_Feeder Offline


Registered: 12/07/08
Posts: 1439
Loc: Occupied Virginia
What exactly is the point of your question? How old are you?

Top
#3254699 - 01/21/14 06:26 AM Re: The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru [Re: SkyActivG]
Pop_Rivit Offline


Registered: 02/09/08
Posts: 3547
Loc: Midwest
Originally Posted By: SkyActivG
As the title states... I'd like to get some thoughts of Mazda and Subaru. Both of these companies participated in WWIII; however Subaru was formally Nakajima Aircraft which made aircraft for WWII. Please correct me if I'm wrong.... Something makes me what to think Mitsubishi was part of WWII. I am ?uncertain of Mazda's role in WIII because Mazda started off in the US with rotary powered scooters. Please elaborate everyone. Are these the only current Japanese companies that were involved in WWII?


It's utterly meaningless in today's world. Henry Ford had some anti-Semitic views, but along with your Mazda and Subaru question, it isn't relevant in today's world. If you dig deep enough you can probably find "dirt" on any automotive company or it's management, especially ones that have been around for nearly a century.

Top
#3254700 - 01/21/14 06:26 AM Re: The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru [Re: Boomer]
BMWTurboDzl Offline


Registered: 04/15/10
Posts: 1251
Loc: Atlanta,GA
Originally Posted By: Boomer
No different than Mercedes (Daimler Benz), BMW and VW. All made war vehicles for the Hitler regime. Germany, however, has the very dark side of companies that collaborated in the Holocaust. They dealt in human hair, gold from dental fillings, etc and they are still around today.

Google I. G. Farben and see what they were involved in.


Don't forget IBM and Bayer.
_________________________
'15 435i - Factory fill.
'10 335d (sold)

Top
#3254704 - 01/21/14 06:36 AM Re: The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru [Re: SkyActivG]
rjundi Offline


Registered: 03/16/04
Posts: 6260
Loc: New England
I heard they both killed babies......

smirk

moving on
_________________________
2005 Legacy GT wagon 5mt - 172k - Mobil 5000/OEM Subie filter

Top
#3254708 - 01/21/14 06:45 AM Re: The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru [Re: SkyActivG]
d00df00d Offline


Registered: 10/20/05
Posts: 9194
Loc: PA
If we never moved on from past conflicts, there'd be no incentive to end them in the first place. Please don't go digging for century-old dirt on parties that are no longer doing anything wrong.
_________________________
2011 Mazda RX-8 R3
Castrol GTX 5w-20

Top
#3254717 - 01/21/14 07:08 AM Re: The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru [Re: SkyActivG]
mrsilv04 Offline


Registered: 12/08/06
Posts: 6422
Loc: Illinois
I'm not sure why such a question has to be asked here... when there's a internet full of information that is available on the topic.

We don't need to look elsewhere. Henry Ford was a tyrant in his own ways, and didn't see anything wrong with it.
_________________________

President of the Illinois chapter of 'Motorcyclists for Global Warming'.

Top
#3254722 - 01/21/14 07:13 AM Re: The Dark Side of Mazda and Subaru [Re: mrsilv04]
dlundblad Offline


Registered: 09/30/13
Posts: 1697
Loc: Indiana
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
I'm not sure why such a question has to be asked here... when there's a internet full of information that is available on the topic.

We don't need to look elsewhere. Henry Ford was a tyrant in his own ways, and didn't see anything wrong with it.


So is our current "president" and he doesn't seem to see anything wrong with it either.
_________________________
2003 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0
PYB 10w30/ Mopar Mo-090


Top
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >