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#3249928 - 01/16/14 06:30 AM Pennzoil Platinum or Mobil 1 Synthetic??
Boston Offline


Registered: 01/12/14
Posts: 20
Loc: Ma
I have a 2009 Nissan Altima, 4cyl with 77k miles on it. All of my driving is city driving, bumper to bumper, stop and go. I recently switched to synthetic oil and used Penzoil Platinum with a FRAM Ultra oil filter. I was told that the only way to go is Mobile 1 full synthetic with a Mobile 1 advance performance oil filter. I am asking for some help and advice on this.

What do you feel is the best synthetic 5W-30 oil / filter combo for my car and type of driving?


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#3249932 - 01/16/14 06:42 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum or Mobil 1 Synthetic?? [Re: Boston]
Coprolite Offline


Registered: 07/03/11
Posts: 927
Loc: TX
You made the right choice already.

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#3249935 - 01/16/14 06:47 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum or Mobil 1 Synthetic?? [Re: Boston]
spasm3 Offline


Registered: 05/30/10
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Both will work fine, pick what is priced well and easy for you to get.
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#3249936 - 01/16/14 06:47 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum or Mobil 1 Synthetic?? [Re: Boston]
racer12306 Offline


Registered: 10/06/05
Posts: 1736
Loc: Baltimore, MD
A lot of people think Mobil 1 or nothing. And that all Fram is garbage.

In the end, if you aren't going crazy with trying to eek every last mile out of the oil, both are very suitable oils. I don't know if one would last longer than the other in your situation.
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#3249937 - 01/16/14 06:47 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum or Mobil 1 Synthetic?? [Re: Coprolite]
Char Baby Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
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Loc: Rochester NY
Originally Posted By: Coprolite
You made the right choice already.


I agree completely!

Welcome to BITOG. Read and learn over the years as we all have and you'll find lots of information about oil/filters.
You might even discover that you may like another combo even better smile




Edited by Char Baby (01/16/14 07:01 AM)
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#3249948 - 01/16/14 07:05 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum or Mobil 1 Synthetic?? [Re: Boston]
901Memphis Offline


Registered: 08/14/10
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The Fram Ultra is better than the Mobil 1 filter, PP vs M1 is a coin flip. Make it a Pennzoil Ultra / Fram Ultra change and your golden.
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#3249969 - 01/16/14 07:42 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum or Mobil 1 Synthetic?? [Re: Boston]
Zaedock Offline


Registered: 09/10/05
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Welcome to forum! What is your change interval? If it's 3-5K miles, then you would be fine with a conventional as well. Boston traffic sucks, but IMO it's not THAT tough on an engine (I work in Boston).

The Pennzoil and Ultra are a great combo. Oh, not that I'm anal (some are) but being neighborly, there is no "e" in Mobil 1.

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#3249972 - 01/16/14 07:46 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum or Mobil 1 Synthetic?? [Re: Boston]
Char Baby Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
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Loc: Rochester NY
I have an '04 Altima 2.5S and have been liking Quaker State Green Bottle(QSGB) and a PureONE Filter(P1). Or QS Ultimate Durability(QSUD/QSGB mix). The 2.5 seems to like these oils. Runs a bit smoooth(er) & quiet(er) than with many other oils.

Yea, it likes PYB/PP too smile I just find better deals on QS oils which may be similar oils but, not exact oils as Penn(PYB/PP)

I currently have 2qts PP/2.5 qts QSGB mix(all 5W30) for my winter OCI.

The engine has been quiet(er) on those ZERO degree evenings at startup and while driving, as this engine can(CAN) experience timing chain rattle for the first few minutes while driving down the road after a cold startup.

And the idle after warm up is less rattley(not noisy, just audiable) on QS oils as compared to some(SOME) other oils...Just my .02 cents.


Edited by Char Baby (01/16/14 07:52 AM)
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#3249989 - 01/16/14 08:08 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum or Mobil 1 Synthetic?? [Re: Boston]
SF0059 Offline


Registered: 08/06/12
Posts: 535
Loc: Lynchburg, VA, USA
Both Pennzoil Platinum and Mobil 1 are excellent oils. You really will do great with either. There is no reason that you have to go with M1 in your application (and that is coming from an M1 fan).

The Fram Ultra is a great filter. The M1 filter is good as well, but is a semi synthetic filter element while the Ultra is full synthetic. Again, if you aren't doing crazy long oil runs you could use either or and not notice a difference. In fact, if you are going 7500 or below on your oil I would probably recommend using a PureOne filter. But that is just me.

BTW, WELCOME!
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#3249990 - 01/16/14 08:09 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum or Mobil 1 Synthetic?? [Re: Boston]
gregk24 Offline


Registered: 04/13/13
Posts: 3652
Loc: FL, USA
PP and a Fram Ultra is a great choice! I wouldnt change anything if you like that combo, if anything run a Tough Guard next time.
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#3250011 - 01/16/14 08:29 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum or Mobil 1 Synthetic?? [Re: Boston]
Clevy Offline


Registered: 11/11/10
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Loc: Saskatoon canada
OP

You've made a fine choice already. Remember that the filter is an extended drain filter. I running a fram ultra for 20000-25000 miles on this interval.
The whole Mobil comment you heard came from a fanboy who fits a certain profile.
They tend to not know much,but know everything and make sure you know they know and only what they know is right.
When the truth of the matter isn't so.
The M1 line is on the same tier as pennzoil platinum as is Quaker state ultimate durability and I consider them basically equal and 10000 mile(minimum)drain capable in a clean,well maintained engine.
I buy these brands whenever they go on sale and I stockpile them. I have never paid full price for oil and my stash was all bought when they cost less than they conventional counterparts.
As a bitoger your first duty is to start building up an oil stash. Then periodically posts pics of the stash in the threads provided so we can all discuss each other's stashes.
Bitogery is a sickness I tell ya.
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#3250016 - 01/16/14 08:34 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum or Mobil 1 Synthetic?? [Re: Boston]
tig1 Offline


Registered: 01/03/09
Posts: 10413
Loc: Illinois
I know nothing about PP other than what some here post and I doubt if they have used PP very long, but my experience with M1 goes back to 1978. I have used it in many differant types of engines, all at 10K OCIs. I have never had an engine show signs of wear, all of them stay very clean, with several engines over 200K and one Ford engine over 350K and still running great. Also remember that the oil you use is far more important that the filter you use.
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#3250019 - 01/16/14 08:37 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum or Mobil 1 Synthetic?? [Re: Boston]
Hyde244 Offline


Registered: 12/29/12
Posts: 669
Loc: Ohio
Both are oils that will let your engine run long enough for something else to go fatally wrong with your car. wink

Go by price point. PP is $22 for 5 quarts here in Ohio, so I would recommend that.
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#3250021 - 01/16/14 08:38 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum or Mobil 1 Synthetic?? [Re: Boston]
bmwtechguy Offline


Registered: 06/15/04
Posts: 2534
Loc: South Carolina
According to Pennzoil's advertising and supposed testing, the Platinum may keep your pistons slightly cleaner in the ring area.

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#3250040 - 01/16/14 08:58 AM Re: Pennzoil Platinum or Mobil 1 Synthetic?? [Re: Boston]
440Magnum Offline


Registered: 02/01/09
Posts: 6908
Loc: Texas
Just PERSONAL opinion: If you're going to go Pennzoil, either go with Yellow Bottle and save money, or go with Ultra and get your money's worth. Platinum, IMO, isn't clearly enough better than PYB to justify the price. Ultra has a different and high-tech (Gas-to-Liquid process) base stock.

So between your two choices, Mobil 1 oil all the way.

Filter choice depends on your drain interval. If you take advantage of the longer drain intervals you can reach with either of those oils, then the M1 filter is a good choice. But for the $$, I'd probably pick a Purolator Synthetic or a Fram Ultra (best bang for the buck on the market right now). In the M1's price class, you can get a full-synthetic media filter like the Puro Synth, Royal Purple, Asoil EAO, etc. and the Ultra is a synthetic media at an even lower price. So the M1 filter is a bit out-dated IMO. Its top notch, but there's more to be had for the dollar out there.
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