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#3247351 - 01/13/14 06:41 PM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: Quattro Pete]
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
I asked about "Pennzoil Ultra Platinum" on Pennzoil's Facebook page a few days ago. So far no comment. They are being tight lipped.

Maybe this isn't to consolidate the PP and PU lines at all to remove confusion. Maybe they're introducing an intermediate between PP and PU. wink We could be getting it now, but just don't know it. Shell doesn't like to waste old labels and bottles, either.
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#3247469 - 01/13/14 08:29 PM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: volk06]
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I sent them an email for product/technical questions asking about it. We will see if I ever get a response back.

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#3248917 - 01/15/14 08:31 AM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: volk06]
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Hi everyone We are currently working through the details of a big launch and announcement to be revealed this spring. The new offering from Pennzoil is one that will be sure to change the motor oil landscape as we know it and we hope it will excite everyone in the industry. Thanks for all the words of encouragement and support thus far. The BITOG community will be one of the first groups to know the details as we anticipate to officially launch this spring. - The Pennzoil Team

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#3248923 - 01/15/14 08:35 AM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: SuzanneClerkin]
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Originally Posted By: SuzanneClerkin
Hi everyone We are currently working through the details of a big launch and announcement to be revealed this spring. The new offering from Pennzoil is one that will be sure to change the motor oil landscape as we know it and we hope it will excite everyone in the industry. Thanks for all the words of encouragement and support thus far. The BITOG community will be one of the first groups to know the details as we anticipate to officially launch this spring. - The Pennzoil Team


Thank you very much for your response Suzanne thumbsup
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#3248948 - 01/15/14 09:02 AM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: Swift101]
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Registered: 03/04/13
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It's funny, because these just showed up on the shelf at my AAP:





Guess they are holding the retail shelf space and reducing stocks? Before this month, I had never seen either of these oils here.
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#3248961 - 01/15/14 09:19 AM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: volk06]
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So there we have it straight from the horse's mouth... the PUP is officially confirmed. smile

Can't wait to see/hear more details as they become available.
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#3249035 - 01/15/14 10:42 AM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: 05LGTLtd]
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Originally Posted By: 05LGTLtd
It's funny, because these just showed up on the shelf at my AAP:

Yup. AZ is also carrying it now, too.
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#3249086 - 01/15/14 11:21 AM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: volk06]
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Registered: 07/21/03
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Loc: Boston, MA
Interesting that the 0W-20 Pour point is Typical -42C / -44F
While the 5W-20 and 5W-30 are Typical -51C / -60 F


Edited by MikeySoft (01/15/14 11:26 AM)
Edit Reason: Added 5W-20 pour point
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#3249167 - 01/15/14 12:22 PM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: volk06]
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Registered: 08/04/03
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They're probably changing the name so we would stop referring to them as PU and PP. LOL

Is the PUE showing up in AAP's and AZ's SM or SN?

-Dennis
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#3249170 - 01/15/14 12:24 PM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: bluesubie]
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Originally Posted By: bluesubie
Is the PUE showing up in AAP's and AZ's SM or SN?

The labels still say "SM" from what I've read. What's actually inside the bottle, who knows?
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#3249335 - 01/15/14 02:57 PM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: bluesubie]
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Originally Posted By: bluesubie
They're probably changing the name so we would stop referring to them as PU and PP. LOL

Is the PUE showing up in AAP's and AZ's SM or SN?

-Dennis






The 5w-40 was SM, but the 0w-40 was SN.
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#3249339 - 01/15/14 03:02 PM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: volk06]
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Cropped version of the PUE 5w-40 back label:

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#3249436 - 01/15/14 04:45 PM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: Garak]
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Registered: 06/18/08
Posts: 410
Loc: Minneapolis, MN
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: Trav
Two questions come to mind. How many domestic and Asian manufacturers spec 0w30? In the US anyway is 0w30 really necessary when 5w30 is spec?

I think that's why Mobil goes out of their way to point out that it's acceptable for 5w-30 applications (not to mention pushing the fuel economy issue). Otherwise, it might not move that well.


Off the top of my head Volvo is the only make I know of that specs a Resource Conserving 0w30 in their cars (ACEA A5/B5), so basically no, nobody specs it. It's great in 5w30 applications for those of us that live in cold places.

IMHO this change was overdue. Too many product lines. Maybe now I'll be able to buy SOPUS's top line product locally again.
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#3249441 - 01/15/14 04:48 PM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: volk06]
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Thanks Pete and 05. I live near PQIA so maybe I'll drop by with a bottle PU 5W-40 and ask them to check the NOACK. laugh

-Dennis
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#3249460 - 01/15/14 05:15 PM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: bluesubie]
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Registered: 10/30/02
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Loc: Illinoistan
Originally Posted By: bluesubie
I live near PQIA so maybe I'll drop by with a bottle PU 5W-40 and ask them to check the NOACK. laugh

That would be awesome. I've seen labs asking $450 to do this test.
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