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#3243100 - 01/09/14 04:49 PM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: volk06]
steve20 Offline


Registered: 06/19/07
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Loc: NJ
do you think SOPUS is aware there are 0-30's out there? Geez--my fav oil, and no 0-30
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#3243138 - 01/09/14 05:16 PM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: volk06]
Trav Offline


Registered: 11/20/06
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Maybe this is why Ultra has been disappearing and lot of sales on Platinum.
Just from the Msds it sure looks like pure GTL with mineral oil as just an additive carrier.

I would bet this will be Dexos approved also. I maybe wrong but in light of all the recent developments (the NOAK of PYB) it seems Shell might be really upping the ante with their Pennzoil brand.
The question on my mind is how will Mobil answer these new super oils.
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#3243139 - 01/09/14 05:16 PM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: 2010_FX4]
Danh Offline


Registered: 10/16/10
Posts: 606
Loc: Illinois
Originally Posted By: 2010_FX4
I have always thought the marketing on Ultra was poorly executed. They could have named Ultra something like Titanium (like the progression in credit cards which consumers are quite familiar with) to indicate it was a better or higher quality oil than Platinum.


Shell's top-tier oil in Europe (and elsewhere?) is called "Shell Helix Ultra", which is probably the source of the name. But it was really never differentiated from Platinum, and for North American Consumers "Helix Utra" means absolutely nothing.

You'd think they could have advertised GTL base stocks, low volatility, etc. to explain its wonderfulness, but they must've concluded we're too clueless to care.

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#3243151 - 01/09/14 05:31 PM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: volk06]
nepadriver Offline


Registered: 07/20/11
Posts: 215
Loc: Northeast PA
So PYB is the new PP, but labeled Dino, and they have a single premium synthetic to cover the 0w emerging market. Makes sense.

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#3243160 - 01/09/14 05:49 PM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: volk06]
Eddie Offline


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? no 0w30-darn.
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#3243163 - 01/09/14 05:53 PM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: volk06]
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Registered: 12/30/06
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There used to be a PP 15W50 and 5W50. I wonder if the new Pennzoil synth will be available in a 50 weight,or if QS will be their only one?
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#3243166 - 01/09/14 06:00 PM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: Eddie]
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Originally Posted By: Eddie
? no 0w30-darn.


I'm also disappointed that there's no 0w30.
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#3243192 - 01/09/14 06:27 PM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: volk06]
Errtt Offline


Registered: 11/14/10
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Loc: California
PU PP I like it - I want it

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#3243194 - 01/09/14 06:30 PM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: dparm]
2010_FX4 Offline


Registered: 09/26/10
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Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: dparm
Originally Posted By: 2010_FX4
Originally Posted By: dparm
I sure hope they don't introduce another oil that is above "Ultra-Platinum". What's next...Diamond? Ultra-Ultra?
Titanium
I think Castrol would sue them for that. eek

Castrol Edge with Titanium is not the same as Castrol Titanium. The brand name is Castrol Edge; the word titanium denotes part of the additive package or some other descriptor. I think SOPUS could have used it and Castrol could not have said a word.
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#3243199 - 01/09/14 06:33 PM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: A_Harman]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
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Originally Posted By: A_Harman
Originally Posted By: Eddie
? no 0w30-darn.


I'm also disappointed that there's no 0w30.


Me too, that might have swayed me away from Mobil 1.
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#3243207 - 01/09/14 06:37 PM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: volk06]
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Registered: 04/13/13
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Sweet, I might have to try it when it comes out.
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#3243211 - 01/09/14 06:40 PM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: dparm]
DGarner211 Offline


Registered: 11/05/13
Posts: 28
Loc: Georgia
Originally Posted By: dparm
I sure hope they don't introduce another oil that is above "Ultra-Platinum". What's next...Diamond? Ultra-Ultra?


Pennzoil Unobatanium.

Oh, wait, that's just Ultra frown

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#3243246 - 01/09/14 07:44 PM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: volk06]
901Memphis Offline


Registered: 08/14/10
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Pennzoil Iridium, since they like rare metals.
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#3243258 - 01/09/14 07:55 PM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: volk06]
BrandonT Offline


Registered: 06/23/11
Posts: 75
Loc: Colorado
-60F pour point on the 5W20 and 5W30...I'm impressed...but not sure why smile

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#3243361 - 01/09/14 09:48 PM Re: PP & PU being combined into a new oil.... PUP [Re: demarpaint]
dparm Offline


Registered: 04/19/10
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Loc: Chicago, IL
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: A_Harman
Originally Posted By: Eddie
? no 0w30-darn.


I'm also disappointed that there's no 0w30.


Me too, that might have swayed me away from Mobil 1.



Blend your own -- mix the 0w20 and 0w40.
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