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#3239442 - 01/06/14 01:22 PM Home made dog food
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Registered: 06/24/04
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Two cans in a row of very foul-smelling wet dog food over the weekend (like, SOMETHING else must have gotten mixed into it; smelled like rubbing alcohol or vinegar) got me to thinking that we could cook meals for our dog and he'd eat better AND it'd likely be cheaper for us, too. And I'm not talking about presenting him with a choice of menus each evening. I'm talking about cooking a batch on Sunday afternoon and having enough to feed him a 1 cup serving for the rest of the week.

I'm sure there are a million home-made dog food recipies out there, but I'm interested in hearing what my BITOG friends are doing.

Here's what I'd think would be reasonable:

1 pound 80% ground beef
1 jar brown gravy
1 bag of frozen mixed veggies (peas, carrots, corn, etc)

We'd use a cup of this in place of the can of wet food, which is fed in the evening, to supplement 2 cups of the dry Purina Beneful he gets in the morning.

Thoughts?
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#3239453 - 01/06/14 01:28 PM Re: Home made dog food [Re: Hokiefyd]
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Registered: 03/21/04
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Loc: Upstate NY
Dog food from the store is only 50 or 60 years old. Prior to that dogs were fed scraps or found food on their own.

I feed my dogs (Mastiff) dry food from Sams that has "lamb" and "lamb meal" as the first two ingredients.
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#3239470 - 01/06/14 01:40 PM Re: Home made dog food [Re: Hokiefyd]
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
You could call up some local small slaughter houses. Here they sell organs and trimmings for much less than ground beef, some even grind it all up for you. Depending on your dogs, chicken backs are good too, whole or ground. Our dogs love crunching whole backs, crunch crunch gulp...
We feed purina green bag to our dogs as well, its a better deal than beneful in $/feeding. It seems to have 40-50% more calories per volume.
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#3239488 - 01/06/14 01:58 PM Re: Home made dog food [Re: Hokiefyd]
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Vonlotta.com for ideas.
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#3239491 - 01/06/14 02:03 PM Re: Home made dog food [Re: Hokiefyd]
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Check out a raw food diet. Cooked meat isnt always good for dogs
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#3239508 - 01/06/14 02:22 PM Re: Home made dog food [Re: ram_man]
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Originally Posted By: ram_man
Check out a raw food diet. Cooked meat isnt always good for dogs


They tried that in North Korea.
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#3239532 - 01/06/14 02:40 PM Re: Home made dog food [Re: Hokiefyd]
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Registered: 05/29/05
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Loc: Ozark Mountains
Take a look at Dog Food Advisor at http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/

I have owned dogs and cats for over 50 years and I have found that if you feed them wet food their teeth will rot after a few years and their last years are not good ones. Dry dog food is by far the best as it cleans the dogs teeth.

Dog Food Advisor will help you learn more about what ingredients are good and what are bad for your dog.

Many cheap dog foods from discount stores and many brand name dog foods people would think are great are very poorly rated and have only one or two stars out of five. Please for your dog check this out before you buy or make your own dog food.

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#3239581 - 01/06/14 03:19 PM Re: Home made dog food [Re: Hokiefyd]
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Registered: 07/15/05
Posts: 6585
Loc: Maricopa, AZ
What I do for my dog is rotate between taste of the wild brands and old roy natural balance dry food. About once a week I will cook him some potatoes, chicken, oatmeal, rice, chicken, beef, pork, green beans, carrots and or feed him some berries or a banana. What ever I have extra around. He has a strong stomach and is not picky eater at all.

I am not fan of a BARF diet and do some research online and you will see why and make that determination for yourself. Also dogs have a higher carbohydrate need in their diet than many assume many tens of thousands of years of domestication and evolution has led them down this road. Despite what dog food commercial's inaccurately state FIDO is not a wolf.

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v495/n7441/full/nature11837.html

http://www.foodpolitics.com/2013/03/yes-dogs-can-eat-carbohydrates-and-heres-why/
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#3239613 - 01/06/14 03:47 PM Re: Home made dog food [Re: Donald]
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Originally Posted By: Donald
Originally Posted By: ram_man
Check out a raw food diet. Cooked meat isnt always good for dogs


They tried that in North Korea.


LOL

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#3239646 - 01/06/14 04:26 PM Re: Home made dog food [Re: Hokiefyd]
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Registered: 02/13/12
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Loc: Northern NY
Raw lean meats, an egg, fish oil, a handful of carrots and potatoes; sure.

Skip the nasty processed and preserved gravy. Yuck. You don't need to feed him wet food. Give him a piece of raw chicken if he's big enough to crunch up the bones. I give my mutts a chicken led or meaty beef rib from time to time.

Taste of the Wild, Blue Wilderness, and Wellness Core are all good dry foods. If you have a Tractor Supply near you, their 4Health Grain Free (brown bag) is good and reasonably priced.
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#3239657 - 01/06/14 04:40 PM Re: Home made dog food [Re: Hokiefyd]
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Home made is fine IF you do it properly. You have to make sure the dog is getting the proper vitamins and minerals etc. Also feeding part home made + Purina dry isn't going to do any good. Eliminate the Purina, and go with a natural premium brand dog food. Blue Buffalo, Wellness, Canidae, Fromm, Merrick, are all good brands. Contrary to belief, don't feed raw, dogs don't need raw food. Just because that's what wolves eat doesn't make it the best for them. Dogs aren't wolves anyway. Plus if you feed raw, your not only putting your dogs heath in danger, but also your family's health, in particular small kids.
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#3239664 - 01/06/14 04:47 PM Re: Home made dog food [Re: callbay]
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Originally Posted By: callbay
I have owned dogs and cats for over 50 years and I have found that if you feed them wet food their teeth will rot after a few years and their last years are not good ones. Dry dog food is by far the best as it cleans the dogs teeth.

Brush the dogs teeth every day with dog toothpaste, and that problem is solved. I feed mine a combo of wet and dry, and have brushed her teeth every day...she will be 5 in Feb, and her teeth are in excellent shape. The vet always comments how great they look. She has never had them professionally cleaned in her 5 years because the vet said there was no need.
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#3239703 - 01/06/14 05:25 PM Re: Home made dog food [Re: Hokiefyd]
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Loc: Irvine, CA
I bought whole chickens when it's on sale for $70-80 cents a pound, cut out the legs, wings and breasts to BBQ for human and slow cook the bone few days for dogs. They like it better than any dog food in a can.
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#3239707 - 01/06/14 05:27 PM Re: Home made dog food [Re: Hokiefyd]
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Hokie, I'd cook some rice & add to your mix of HB & mix veg, & go easy on the store-bought gravy. Sounds like you take good care of your dog. thumbsup
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#3239725 - 01/06/14 05:39 PM Re: Home made dog food [Re: ClutchDisc]
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Registered: 03/15/13
Posts: 1475
Loc: southern mo
Originally Posted By: ClutchDisc
Home made is fine IF you do it properly. You have to make sure the dog is getting the proper vitamins and minerals etc. Also feeding part home made + Purina dry isn't going to do any good. Eliminate the Purina, and go with a natural premium brand dog food. Blue Buffalo, Wellness, Canidae, Fromm, Merrick, are all good brands. Contrary to belief, don't feed raw, dogs don't need raw food. Just because that's what wolves eat doesn't make it the best for them. Dogs aren't wolves anyway. Plus if you feed raw, your not only putting your dogs heath in danger, but also your family's health, in particular small kids.


Dogs don't have issue with bacteria like you and I. Salmonella for example has little effect on a healthy dog. There intentional tract is short and very acidic. Feeding raw can be dangerous to you if you aren't careful. It's no more dangerous than preparing food for your self. Raw meat is raw no matter if you are cooking it for yourself or are leaving it raw.
When you prepare food for yourself it is raw. Tons of people are getting sick from handling raw chicken and beef to cool for their families. Why would it be more dangerous to prepare it for your dog? It's like most things if done correctly and with a reasonable level of common sense it's fine. The main word there was common sense.
My dogs did best on a raw diet I took them off because bag food is cheaper and they haven't done as well, coats not as shiny and good looking, breathe smells worse even with regular brushing and our one dog had terrible gas.

I will be switching back to raw when they are done with this bag of food.

Also the debate over omnivores vs carnivores comes to mind what is a dog?
Dogs can live without meat for a long time , dogs can eat vegetables and do ok. Most dogs can eat bagged food and do ok and most dogs can eat raw and d good to. My point is no a dog doesn't need raw food to survive but they don't require bagged food to survive either.
Also do not mix the two. A dogs body metabolizes dry food and raw meats totally different feeding both together can make them sick.
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