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#3230191 - 12/28/13 05:51 PM Re: This is why we can't have nice things ... [Re: SevenBizzos]
ClutchDisc Offline


Registered: 11/23/12
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Loc: Detroit area
Originally Posted By: SevenBizzos
Pushing 50 degrees in the IL today. I washed the Sonata in the driveway. Then some interior cleaning and the garage floor got a washing to rid itself of the piles of salt that fell off the car over the last month. By Monday morning we'll be back below zero.

I try to keep the washing up to 5-6 day schedule, but sometimes it's just too cold to do so.

Most of the time the salt depth > snow depth.

Same here! Got out and washed the S-10 off. Looks much better!
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#3230213 - 12/28/13 06:25 PM Re: This is why we can't have nice things ... [Re: Miller88]
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Ditto. Car washes were packed with people...half of them "bros" with huge jacked up trucks that took 20 minutes to rinse clean. Ugh.

I always thought a white car would look clean for a while longer in the winter, but it just ends up looking awful from the dirty water getting slung up.
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#3230386 - 12/28/13 09:35 PM Re: This is why we can't have nice things ... [Re: Miller88]
rjundi Offline


Registered: 03/16/04
Posts: 6629
Loc: USA
Our cars are both bad. We don't bother washing ours in NH winters and use the rain to do that. Unless our cars make us dirty entering then we go to a touchless wash if you fill gas for $5.

That all being said we seem to get 10-12 years ownership(~200k miles) which is fine by us.

I prefer salt/sand as roads clear quickly and you drive a good clip after. Winter tires still don't make up enough for ice.



Edited by rjundi (12/28/13 09:45 PM)
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#3230418 - 12/28/13 10:03 PM Re: This is why we can't have nice things ... [Re: Miller88]
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#3230426 - 12/28/13 10:11 PM Re: This is why we can't have nice things ... [Re: SevenBizzos]
HTSS_TR Offline


Registered: 04/17/06
Posts: 13488
Loc: Irvine, CA
Originally Posted By: SevenBizzos
Pushing 50 degrees in the IL today. I washed the Sonata in the driveway. Then some interior cleaning and the garage floor got a washing to rid itself of the piles of salt that fell off the car over the last month. By Monday morning we'll be back below zero.

I try to keep the washing up to 5-6 day schedule, but sometimes it's just too cold to do so.

Most of the time the salt depth > snow depth.

You wash the car when it's only 50 degrees ? That's too cold to do anything outdoor for So Cal people. I only wash my cars when it's in the 70's or warmer, less than 70 then wait for few days.
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#3230429 - 12/28/13 10:14 PM Re: This is why we can't have nice things ... [Re: Miller88]
css9450 Offline


Registered: 01/03/04
Posts: 1673
Loc: Glen Ellyn, IL
Here's mine this morning. Doesn't look half as bad as I thought it might; I've seen much worse.

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#3230440 - 12/28/13 10:31 PM Re: This is why we can't have nice things ... [Re: Miller88]
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Registered: 01/30/07
Posts: 10108
Loc: Clovis, CA
Do people actually buy new cars and then drive them on the salt roads?

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#3230448 - 12/28/13 10:43 PM Re: This is why we can't have nice things ... [Re: Merkava_4]
rjundi Offline


Registered: 03/16/04
Posts: 6629
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Do people actually buy new cars and then drive them on the salt roads?


Yep! 8 years/162,000 miles on my wife's Subie since new and we expecting another 5 years out of it hopefully.
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#3230460 - 12/28/13 10:59 PM Re: This is why we can't have nice things ... [Re: Merkava_4]
Clevy Offline


Registered: 11/11/10
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Loc: Saskatoon canada
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Do people actually buy new cars and then drive them on the salt roads?



Nope. Most people buy vehicles and only drive them during the warmer months then take the bus during the winter.

Here salt is very rarely used. Sand and gravel for the most part. You only need salt when there are warm/cold cycles and the warm cycle melts the snow which turns into water which creates ice in the freeze cycle. Here there is no warm cycle,just cold so there is little to no ice.
And if there is some ice the gravel gives the tires traction. We see a lot of gravel at the stop lights and stop signs otherwise there isn't much.
I'm still driving on summer tires right now. 18" winter tires are insanely priced and I'm not paying those kinds of prices. The charger performs fantastic so I'm not worried.
Vehicles here rarely become rust buckets unless imported from the east.
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#3230569 - 12/29/13 06:01 AM Re: This is why we can't have nice things ... [Re: Clevy]
Jarlaxle Offline


Registered: 02/02/12
Posts: 4496
Loc: New England
Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Do people actually buy new cars and then drive them on the salt roads?



Nope. Most people buy vehicles and only drive them during the warmer months then take the bus during the winter.

Here salt is very rarely used. Sand and gravel for the most part. You only need salt when there are warm/cold cycles and the warm cycle melts the snow which turns into water which creates ice in the freeze cycle. Here there is no warm cycle,just cold so there is little to no ice.
And if there is some ice the gravel gives the tires traction. We see a lot of gravel at the stop lights and stop signs otherwise there isn't much.
I'm still driving on summer tires right now. 18" winter tires are insanely priced and I'm not paying those kinds of prices. The charger performs fantastic so I'm not worried.
Vehicles here rarely become rust buckets unless imported from the east.


Tire Rack has a set of snows in your size for $450.
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#3230656 - 12/29/13 08:42 AM Re: This is why we can't have nice things ... [Re: Merkava_4]
css9450 Offline


Registered: 01/03/04
Posts: 1673
Loc: Glen Ellyn, IL
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Do people actually buy new cars and then drive them on the salt roads?


I suppose we could just stay home?

I drive a lot, espcially in winter. My "new" car (my Cobalt) already has 160,000 miles. I do however have a classic that stays in the garage safe and dry all winter though.

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#3230662 - 12/29/13 08:50 AM Re: This is why we can't have nice things ... [Re: Merkava_4]
sciphi Offline


Registered: 03/24/07
Posts: 8747
Loc: Upstate NY
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Do people actually buy new cars and then drive them on the salt roads?


We have no choice. There's no public transportation and the job's 25 miles away. If I could take a warm bus in a reasonable amount of time/cost, I would. Instead I have to spend 4 hours a year rustproofing both cars and $1000 every 4-5 years on snow tires.
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#3230664 - 12/29/13 08:52 AM Re: This is why we can't have nice things ... [Re: HTSS_TR]
Tdbo Offline


Registered: 08/18/09
Posts: 1883
Loc: Ohio
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
Originally Posted By: SevenBizzos
Pushing 50 degrees in the IL today. I washed the Sonata in the driveway. Then some interior cleaning and the garage floor got a washing to rid itself of the piles of salt that fell off the car over the last month. By Monday morning we'll be back below zero.

I try to keep the washing up to 5-6 day schedule, but sometimes it's just too cold to do so.

Most of the time the salt depth > snow depth.

You wash the car when it's only 50 degrees ?


If you are going to wash your car during a midwest winter, that's generally as good as it gets.
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#3230788 - 12/29/13 11:24 AM Re: This is why we can't have nice things ... [Re: Miller88]
Spazdog Offline


Registered: 09/06/10
Posts: 5709
Loc: Arlington
TX DOT has begun to spray the bridges with Magnesium Chloride.

It has some sort of adhesive in it to adhere to the bridges.

I wonder how long until our cars start to resemble New England cars?
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#3230804 - 12/29/13 11:50 AM Re: This is why we can't have nice things ... [Re: Tdbo]
SevenBizzos Offline


Registered: 12/10/06
Posts: 472
Loc: The IL
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
You wash the car when it's only 50 degrees ? That's too cold to do anything outdoor for So Cal people. I only wash my cars when it's in the 70's or warmer, less than 70 then wait for few days.


Originally Posted By: Tdbo
If you are going to wash your car during a midwest winter, that's generally as good as it gets.


Depending on the wind, I can comfortably wash down to 45 degrees or so. I usually use warm water with the soap, so my hands don't get that cold.

Lower than that is a car wash. You can use those probably until about 15-20 degrees. The water freezes on the car too quickly below.

Any lower than that, I don't think the salt is doing to much to the car. Everything is pretty much frozen solid on the car and elsewhere.

In the IL, the neighbors ask you to wash their car too. In So Cal they probably call the police for the extreme water wasting you're doing.

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