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#3228426 - 12/26/13 03:44 PM I need a single bolt. How hard can it be?
gr8gatzby Offline


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I need a single trans pan bolt. Ford part #N605904-SA. Not sold at AZ/AA/O'Reily. This bolt, in a package of two can be found cheap online($2.50), but then shipping adds $11-$14 to the bill. The Ford dealer wants $8 per bolt. Anyone with an alternative solution here?


Edited by gr8gatzby (12/26/13 03:45 PM)
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#3228428 - 12/26/13 03:46 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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Hardware store? Get the threads and some washers.

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#3228430 - 12/26/13 03:47 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
Rouphis Offline


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Junkyard?

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#3228431 - 12/26/13 03:47 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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If you know the length and type (thread pitch, etc) then walk into the Zone and get a bolt. Or go to a local garage and ask for a bolt (giving the exact kind you need (thread pitch, diameter, length.)) Anybody wrenching on cars has a "junk drawer" or bin of some kind with stuff like that in there.


Edited by beast3300 (12/26/13 03:49 PM)
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#3228443 - 12/26/13 04:01 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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Something like a trans pan bolt does not need to be anything special. As long as it threads in and isnt too long its fine.the dealer would be the last place id look. Id go to osh or home depo first.
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#3228452 - 12/26/13 04:10 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
Kuato Offline


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$8 a pop at the stealership...are they aircraft grade and made of gold?


Oh and weren't the same answers in your first post about this? hornets
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#3228470 - 12/26/13 04:32 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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They are probably charging you for the pack. The dealer has to order them in quantities of 2, and since it is special order, you are getting the bag of 2. Those bolts are $4.11 each, hence the $8.22 plus tax for 2 bolts.

dimensions are M8 x 1.25 x 19.
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#3228477 - 12/26/13 04:41 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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Scour the local parking lots for your model year? Or try Wally World and their order a part service...
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#3228487 - 12/26/13 04:56 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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#3228491 - 12/26/13 04:58 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: CHARLIEBRONSON21]
kschachn Offline


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LMAO. I can state from personal experience (a long time ago) that this is not a good idea, at least for wheel covers.

Originally Posted By: CHARLIEBRONSON21
Scour the local parking lots for your model year? Or try Wally World and their order a part service...
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#3228494 - 12/26/13 05:02 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
Dufus2 Offline


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You should be able to get any bolt 8x1x1.25 with a flat washer like others said. Most tranny pan bolts have a flange washer and possibly a tooth pattern on the washer. For an OEM bolt, salvage is your best bet.
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#3228498 - 12/26/13 05:08 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
edwardh1 Offline


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Loc: Coastal South Carolina
any good hardware store should have it - a hardware store not a garden center.
our ace hardware has all that stuff + metric. or a u pick salvage yard


Edited by edwardh1 (12/26/13 05:08 PM)

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#3228528 - 12/26/13 05:45 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
stephen9666 Offline


Registered: 12/08/06
Posts: 2559
Loc: USA
As mentioned, a generic bolt like a trans pan bolt will be available at any decent hardware store.

Home Depot has a terrible selection of bulk hardware, so skip them. They never have what I need, but my local ACE Hardware generally does have the single nuts/bolts I need.

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#3228548 - 12/26/13 06:10 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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Take one of the bolts to Lowes or Napa and they will match it.
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#3228551 - 12/26/13 06:14 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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Go to Lowes or a hardware store, 8x1.25x15mm should work, put a flat washer under it.

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#3228554 - 12/26/13 06:20 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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Go to a local ford dealer, ask a trans tech if he has one laying around.

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#3228586 - 12/26/13 06:56 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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It's in here somewhere... wink

The good thing about metric is, it's a standard! Tons of stuff is 8mm and usually the thread pitch is close to universal too. Saturns make great donors of literal buckets of bolts.




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#3228619 - 12/26/13 07:31 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
FXjohn Offline


Registered: 05/25/07
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Loc: NE Indiana
Just pay the 8.22 bucks. how did you lose them?

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#3228629 - 12/26/13 07:48 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: FXjohn]
dishdude Offline


Registered: 11/14/08
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Loc: Phoenix
Originally Posted By: FXjohn
Just pay the 8.22 bucks. how did you lose them?


That's what I'd do. It's annoying, but get it over with and move on to life's next annoyance.

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#3228648 - 12/26/13 08:12 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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I you would post the size of the bolt (diameter, length, and thread pitch) I could find it easily. The Ford part number is worthless because it doesn't give me the size.

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#3228653 - 12/26/13 08:18 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: Merkava_4]
yonyon Offline


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Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
dimensions are M8 x 1.25 x 19.

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#3228657 - 12/26/13 08:23 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
FXjohn Offline


Registered: 05/25/07
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if they don't match, it will be kind of childish. it may work, but it will look like the little rascals worked on your car.


Edited by FXjohn (12/26/13 08:24 PM)

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#3228658 - 12/26/13 08:27 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: yonyon]
Merkava_4 Online   content


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Originally Posted By: yonyon
dimensions are M8 x 1.25 x 19.


Thank you. I found one that is 1mm longer but it should work:

http://www.dormanproducts.com/gsearch.aspx?type=keyword&q=459-420

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail...1&ppt=C0344

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#3228660 - 12/26/13 08:31 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: Merkava_4]
FXjohn Offline


Registered: 05/25/07
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Loc: NE Indiana
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Originally Posted By: yonyon

dimensions are M8 x 1.25 x 19.


Thank you. I found one that 1mm too long but it should work:

http://www.dormanproducts.com/gsearch.aspx?type=keyword&q=459-420

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail...1&ppt=C0344


it should "work" after you grind it. how much? I see O reilly is a box of 10 for 10.50. that's stickin it to the man.


Edited by FXjohn (12/26/13 08:32 PM)

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#3228663 - 12/26/13 08:32 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: FXjohn]
yonyon Offline


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Why grind at all? It's already the wrong color so there's no harm in putting a washer on it.

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#3228665 - 12/26/13 08:34 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: FXjohn]
Merkava_4 Online   content


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Originally Posted By: FXjohn
it should "work" after you grind it.


You're gonna grind off one millimeter? Why not just put a washer under the head?

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#3228666 - 12/26/13 08:36 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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Originally Posted By: gr8gatzby
I need a single trans pan bolt. Ford part #N605904-SA. Not sold at AZ/AA/O'Reily. This bolt, in a package of two can be found cheap online($2.50), but then shipping adds $11-$14 to the bill. The Ford dealer wants $8 per bolt. Anyone with an alternative solution here?


Go to Pull-A-Part on N. Tryon St., towards the University area. The bolt you need IS in there.
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#3228667 - 12/26/13 08:37 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: Merkava_4]
FXjohn Offline


Registered: 05/25/07
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Loc: NE Indiana
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Originally Posted By: FXjohn
it should "work" after you grind it.


You're gonna grind off one millimeter? Why not just put a washer under the head?


why not just use the right bolt so the pattern doesn't look like a kinder gardener did it?

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#3228672 - 12/26/13 08:41 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: FXjohn]
yonyon Offline


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Originally Posted By: FXjohn

why not just use the right bolt so the pattern doesn't look like a kinder gardener did it?


I'm so glad I don't know what color gr8gatzby's truck is because if I did I'd end up having nightmares about hordes of small children crawling around under his truck.

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#3228679 - 12/26/13 08:47 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
yonyon Offline


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OMG!!! That one got his tongue stuck in the rear differential fill hole!

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#3228680 - 12/26/13 08:47 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: yonyon]
FXjohn Offline


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Originally Posted By: yonyon
Originally Posted By: FXjohn

why not just use the right bolt so the pattern doesn't look like a kinder gardener did it?


I'm so glad I don't know what color gr8gatzby's truck is because if I did I'd end up having nightmares about hordes of small children crawling around under his truck.


so far no one has demonstrated he's saved any money over the 8.22

Ace hardware does have a few bolts. I would check there if nothing close get the ford bolts.


Edited by FXjohn (12/26/13 08:50 PM)

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#3228684 - 12/26/13 08:48 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: FXjohn]
Merkava_4 Online   content


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Originally Posted By: FXjohn
why not just use the right bolt so the pattern doesn't look like a kinder gardener did it?


What's different about the Dorman bolt? The color?

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#3228687 - 12/26/13 08:51 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: Merkava_4]
FXjohn Offline


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Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Originally Posted By: FXjohn
why not just use the right bolt so the pattern doesn't look like a kinder gardener did it?


What's different about the Dorman bolt? The color?


could be a lot of things when you're talking OEM.

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#3228690 - 12/26/13 08:52 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: FXjohn]
Merkava_4 Online   content


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Originally Posted By: FXjohn
could be a lot of things when you're talking OEM.


Well he said "trans pan bolt" and most trans pan bolts are flange head.

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#3228691 - 12/26/13 08:54 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: FXjohn]
yonyon Offline


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Originally Posted By: FXjohn

so far no one has demonstrated he's saved any money over the 8.22


This is true, but there is almost certainly an equivalent bolt available for less than $8. It won't look as nice, but it's available for less and it's no in a place one would see every day.

Even buying the 10 bolts for a little more money means that the next 9 bolts are pretty much free. M8x1.25 is a pretty common size. If nothing else, they'll take of a lot of brake rotors and being 10.9's they can be used more than once.

I'd go with the Ford bolt myself.


Edited by yonyon (12/26/13 08:57 PM)

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#3228695 - 12/26/13 08:56 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: yonyon]
FXjohn Offline


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Originally Posted By: yonyon


I'd go with the Ford bolt myself.


might just as well

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#3228696 - 12/26/13 08:57 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: Merkava_4]
FXjohn Offline


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Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Originally Posted By: FXjohn
could be a lot of things when you're talking OEM.


Well he said "trans pan bolt" and most trans pan bolts are flange head.


could be tapered hex, trapped washer, plated, stainless, etc. you can tell the difference.

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#3228707 - 12/26/13 09:14 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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I generally get my stuff at Fastenal. I have one about a mile from me.
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#3228709 - 12/26/13 09:17 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: ls1mike]
FXjohn Offline


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Originally Posted By: ls1mike
I generally get my stuff at Fastenal. I have one about a mile from me.


that's nice, what do they charge for those two bolts.

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#3228717 - 12/26/13 09:26 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: FXjohn]
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Originally Posted By: FXjohn
could be tapered hex, trapped washer, plated, stainless, etc. you can tell the difference.


Well it would be nice if Ford put a picture next to the part number but they don't - they don't even tell you the size.

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#3228727 - 12/26/13 09:34 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
FXjohn Offline


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don't lose stuff.

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#3228738 - 12/26/13 09:42 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: FXjohn]
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I got two Dorman flange bolts for my Buick that were identical to the OEM bolts except for the color -- the OEM bolts are silver and the Dormans are gold.

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#3228778 - 12/26/13 11:01 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: Merkava_4]
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Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Originally Posted By: FXjohn
could be tapered hex, trapped washer, plated, stainless, etc. you can tell the difference.


Well it would be nice if Ford put a picture next to the part number but they don't - they don't even tell you the size.


Trust me is isn't any easier on the other side of the counter. So many times I have printed out a picture and said to the customer "does the bolt look like that smudge or the little dot."

Hardware is the most difficult part of the cataloging, what hurts is most are sold in packs of 6-8-10 so the customer that only needs one has to buy 8 because I am not getting stuck with the other 7 to babysit for years and waste the owners money.
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#3228781 - 12/26/13 11:06 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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Use one from a hardware store until you can get the exact match next time you are at a U-pull-it junkyard.

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#3228862 - 12/27/13 03:18 AM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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I don't see 1mm making any difference. Use the Dorman bolt.
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#3228937 - 12/27/13 07:08 AM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: 901Memphis]
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3 pages for a missing trans pan bolt????
Go to a good hardware. Maybe I'm spoiled but I have two hardwares within 10 miles of me that would likely have the correct flange bolt.
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#3228953 - 12/27/13 07:31 AM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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I would go to the hardware store too. It wouldn't bother me if the bolts weren't a perfect match. Bolt and a washer will work if you can't find the exact type of bolt.
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#3229000 - 12/27/13 08:59 AM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: Merkava_4]
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Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
I got two Dorman flange bolts for my Buick that were identical to the OEM bolts except for the color -- the OEM bolts are silver and the Dormans are gold.


Then you should replace them all with gold so they match... wink

No doubt OCD runs rampet on this board...

Me, If there isn't something workable in my bucket, I'll go to Tractor Supply and buy whatever is close...

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#3229025 - 12/27/13 09:47 AM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: TFB1]
FXjohn Offline


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Originally Posted By: TFB1
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
I got two Dorman flange bolts for my Buick that were identical to the OEM bolts except for the color -- the OEM bolts are silver and the Dormans are gold.


Then you should replace them all with gold so they match... wink

No doubt OCD runs rampet on this board...

Me, If there isn't something workable in my bucket, I'll go to Tractor Supply and buy whatever is close...


why pay more money and get 10 bolts instead of two, of unknown grade?

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#3229030 - 12/27/13 09:53 AM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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There has to be a Ford with a transmission in the J/Y. Wait until you strip one out. Then you can use a 1/4 - 28 without even tapping. smile

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#3229055 - 12/27/13 10:50 AM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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If you have some appropriate hex bar stock, a lathe and a heat treat oven you could make your own.

Are we to four pages yet?
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#3229069 - 12/27/13 11:09 AM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: FXjohn]
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Originally Posted By: FXjohn
Originally Posted By: TFB1
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
I got two Dorman flange bolts for my Buick that were identical to the OEM bolts except for the color -- the OEM bolts are silver and the Dormans are gold.


Then you should replace them all with gold so they match... wink

No doubt OCD runs rampet on this board...

Me, If there isn't something workable in my bucket, I'll go to Tractor Supply and buy whatever is close...


why pay more money and get 10 bolts instead of two, of unknown grade?


I'd use nothing less than a 10.9 grade bolt if it was my pan.

(dang....still on Page 3)


Edited by paulo57509 (12/27/13 11:09 AM)
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#3229087 - 12/27/13 11:38 AM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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The OEM appears to be 9.8, but I am not positive.

You can find it here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/93224569/Standard-and-Utility-Parts-Catalog .... grin

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#3229103 - 12/27/13 12:02 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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4 pages now. I always keep bolts from spare parts, junkyard bolts, etc. I probably have what the OP needs in my boxes of junk.
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#3229106 - 12/27/13 12:04 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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I'm sure I have a ford OEM trans pan bolt if you are desperate enough.

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#3229110 - 12/27/13 12:09 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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Harbor Freight, 460 piece metric bolt assortment, $4.99

http://www.harborfreight.com/725-piece-nut-and-washer-set-with-6-inch-parts-tray-67624.html

Use a rotary tool or hacksaw to cut the M8x1.25x40 down to size.

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#3229117 - 12/27/13 12:17 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: CHARLIEBRONSON21]
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Scour the local parking lots for your model year?



I lol'd at that , good way to get shot!
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#3229154 - 12/27/13 01:13 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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#3229168 - 12/27/13 01:40 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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why would you put your car back together with tractor supply chinese garbage hardware?

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#3229210 - 12/27/13 02:48 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: FXjohn]
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Originally Posted By: FXjohn
why would you put your car back together with tractor supply chinese garbage hardware?


Guess you've never been to TS eh??? They have a great selection of std bolts in grades 2, 5, & 8, as well a quality metric sizes, anyway I don't care if they MAYBE are imported... For a trans pan a thumbscrew, even bubble gum would be fine...

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#3229273 - 12/27/13 04:39 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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Dodge dealers around here wanted 36 bucks for the front shock absorber (to lower control arm) bolt. I went to the Ford dealer and the guy at counter pulled a matching one from a spare bin for free.
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#3229279 - 12/27/13 04:48 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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Isn't the pan held on with like eighty bolts? Put the other 79 in and see if it leaks first. Heck, around here a slow oil leak is a good thing for keeping rust at bay.
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#3229355 - 12/27/13 06:22 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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someone should tell all the manufacturers they could save tons of money by using Walmart fasteners.

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#3229364 - 12/27/13 06:31 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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^ They probably pay about the same, except for mission critical strut bolts etc.

My saturns had a bazillion of those 10mm headed bolts, seems their CAD designers decided if more clamping was needed they'd just drill more holes instead of using bigger bolts. Exhibit "A", the AC compressor bracketry. Probably also helps assembly. This is 99% of the reason for finding torx headed fasteners.

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#3229382 - 12/27/13 06:44 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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Any Local transmission shop will have plenty of these bolts.
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#3229396 - 12/27/13 06:59 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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Originally Posted By: gr8gatzby
I need a single trans pan bolt. Ford part #N605904-SA. Not sold at AZ/AA/O'Reily. This bolt, in a package of two can be found cheap online($2.50), but then shipping adds $11-$14 to the bill. The Ford dealer wants $8 per bolt. Anyone with an alternative solution here?


Ye Gads!! 4 pages?? I sent you a PM with my phone #. Give me a call. I have a blown 94 gc tranny with like 21 pan bolts in it. I'm sure they are the same. I'll give you as many as you need. I'm over on the east side in the Wilgrove area.

Wayne
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#3229462 - 12/27/13 08:14 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: JetStar]
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Originally Posted By: JetStar
3 pages for a missing trans pan bolt????


LOL!! LOL

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#3229464 - 12/27/13 08:17 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: TFB1]
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Originally Posted By: TFB1
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
I got two Dorman flange bolts for my Buick that were identical to the OEM bolts except for the color -- the OEM bolts are silver and the Dormans are gold.


Then you should replace them all with gold so they match... wink


I didn't replace them all, but I do have the two golds ones right next to each other. grin2

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#3229470 - 12/27/13 08:20 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: clinebarger]
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Originally Posted By: clinebarger
Any Local transmission shop will have plenty of these bolts.


How about a transmission shop supplier? We got one of those in town too. grin2

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#3229477 - 12/27/13 08:28 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: Merkava_4]
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Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Originally Posted By: TFB1
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
I got two Dorman flange bolts for my Buick that were identical to the OEM bolts except for the color -- the OEM bolts are silver and the Dormans are gold.


Then you should replace them all with gold so they match... wink


I didn't replace them all, but I do have the two golds ones right next to each other. grin2


Maybe alternate gold, silver, gold etc... Could start a new trend...

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#3229488 - 12/27/13 08:38 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: Oldmoparguy1]
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Originally Posted By: Oldmoparguy1
Originally Posted By: gr8gatzby
I need a single trans pan bolt. Ford part #N605904-SA. Not sold at AZ/AA/O'Reily. This bolt, in a package of two can be found cheap online($2.50), but then shipping adds $11-$14 to the bill. The Ford dealer wants $8 per bolt. Anyone with an alternative solution here?


Ye Gads!! 4 pages?? I sent you a PM with my phone #. Give me a call. I have a blown 94 gc tranny with like 21 pan bolts in it. I'm sure they are the same. I'll give you as many as you need. I'm over on the east side in the Wilgrove area.

Wayne


now there's a solution I like.

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#3229602 - 12/27/13 10:28 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: FXjohn]
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#3229950 - 12/28/13 11:09 AM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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Seems like the best answer is for the bitog'rs that have vast bolt stashes to visit the OP, inspect be area where the bolt is missing, post photos, have another 5 page discussion about suitable replacement. Although eljefino will be helpful, the bolt wont come from his stash because his stuff is too rusty. a side discussion will ensue about how professional mechanics are hacks and thieves, especially dealers, and that's why the bolt is missing. Once a replacement is determined from the bolt stash we need to discuss sealants for 3 pages. Then we need to discuss torquing procedures for 2 pages and torque wrenches for a page. At this point the another bitog'r will attempt to torque the original pan bolt with a Chinese made wrench, then someone else will not feel secure about the accuracy of that torque at which point another bitog'r should volunteer to go over there with a Snap-on torque wrench. That will cause a 3 page discussion on the fact that not everyone has the budget for top of the line tools, a few comments about German made tools, Canadian Tire, and Harbor Freight screwdrivers will be made.
At the end of this, The Critic will come over to the OP's house and correct the vehicle's paint...
After all of that, gr8gastby will have saved $8.22 and many bitog'rs will feel warm and fuzzy.
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#3230019 - 12/28/13 12:29 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: tom slick]
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LMAO

Originally Posted By: tom slick
Seems like the best answer is for the bitog'rs that have vast bolt stashes to visit the OP, inspect be area where the bolt is missing, post photos, have another 5 page discussion about suitable replacement. Although eljefino will be helpful, the bolt wont come from his stash because his stuff is too rusty. a side discussion will ensue about how professional mechanics are hacks and thieves, especially dealers, and that's why the bolt is missing. Once a replacement is determined from the bolt stash we need to discuss sealants for 3 pages. Then we need to discuss torquing procedures for 2 pages and torque wrenches for a page. At this point the another bitog'r will attempt to torque the original pan bolt with a Chinese made wrench, then someone else will not feel secure about the accuracy of that torque at which point another bitog'r should volunteer to go over there with a Snap-on torque wrench. That will cause a 3 page discussion on the fact that not everyone has the budget for top of the line tools, a few comments about German made tools, Canadian Tire, and Harbor Freight screwdrivers will be made.
At the end of this, The Critic will come over to the OP's house and correct the vehicle's paint...
After all of that, gr8gastby will have saved $8.22 and many bitog'rs will feel warm and fuzzy.
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#3230068 - 12/28/13 02:10 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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How about buying some M8x1.5 allthread and cut it any length you want. Just put a nut on it and presto you have universal length bolt stock. cool


Edited by hsd (12/28/13 02:12 PM)

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#3230146 - 12/28/13 04:19 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: hsd]
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Originally Posted By: hsd
How about buying some M8x1.5 allthread and cut it any length you want. Just put a nut on it and presto you have universal length bolt stock. cool


But what grade would the nut need to be???

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#3230316 - 12/28/13 08:44 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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Only the following metals will suffice for this bolt replacement:

A29 / A29M - 12e1, either of which meet the standard specification for general requirements for steel bars, carbon and alloy, hot-wrought.

TI6AL4V (titanium alloyed with 6% aluminum and 4% vanadium)

IGCN (Industrial Grade Carbon Nanotubes) >50nm OD with a minimum of 90% purity
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#3230339 - 12/28/13 09:01 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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This might be the most pathetic display of OCD I have ever seen on here.

Just....wow.

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#3230349 - 12/28/13 09:13 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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This, quite possibly, is the greatest accidental thread of all time.
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#3230394 - 12/28/13 09:40 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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Originally Posted By: gr8gatzby
This, quite possibly, is the greatest accidental thread of all time.



A thread about threads.... Yo Dawg...
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#3230851 - 12/29/13 12:26 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: CHARLIEBRONSON21]
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It's nuts, I tell ya. Really screwed up.

Originally Posted By: CHARLIEBRONSON21
A thread about threads.... Yo Dawg...
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#3230969 - 12/29/13 02:38 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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Thanks to Oldmoparguy1, I'm in good shape. He's one cool dude.
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#3231082 - 12/29/13 04:27 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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Originally Posted By: gr8gatzby
Thanks to Oldmoparguy1, I'm in good shape. He's one cool dude.


Does that mean you have a Mopar bolt in your FoMoCo
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#3231101 - 12/29/13 04:43 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: javacontour]
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Originally Posted By: javacontour
Originally Posted By: gr8gatzby
Thanks to Oldmoparguy1, I'm in good shape. He's one cool dude.


Does that mean you have a Mopar bolt in your FoMoCo


From "Lost in Space", Dr. Smith's reaction:


(all in good fun)
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#3231271 - 12/29/13 06:53 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: hsd]
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Originally Posted By: hsd
How about buying some M8x1.5 allthread and cut it any length you want. Just put a nut on it and presto you have universal length bolt stock. cool


This is great, you could get a bunch of allthreads that are a foot long. You know when you get a freaked out squirrel that you straddle between your tires? You'll skewer him good and the heat from your catalytic converter means... barbecue!!!

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#3232352 - 12/30/13 10:11 PM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: gr8gatzby]
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This is why I love BITOG, 6 pages for this....
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#3246807 - 01/13/14 10:48 AM Re: I need a single bolt. How hard can it be? [Re: javacontour]
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Originally Posted By: javacontour
Originally Posted By: gr8gatzby
Thanks to Oldmoparguy1, I'm in good shape. He's one cool dude.

Does that mean you have a Mopar bolt in your FoMoCo

Absolutely, and it's better for it....... grin2

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