Recent Topics
Whay diesel oil turns black immediately after chan
by DibroTeam
09/16/14 02:15 AM
I need some advice
by sky06
09/16/14 01:24 AM
My 15 year old filter
by SubieShane
09/16/14 12:01 AM
Using a little hot-rod tech on industrial equip
by DoubleWasp
09/15/14 11:48 PM
Headlight Questions
by SubieShane
09/15/14 11:43 PM
Vinyl record cleaner
by whizbyu
09/15/14 11:32 PM
King Kong NAPA 1459 filter to replace PH8/FL1
by DoubleWasp
09/15/14 11:07 PM
C.A.R. Products Bullet Proof Paint Coating - Pics
by The Critic
09/15/14 10:27 PM
FireClean
by Sworbeyegib
09/15/14 10:13 PM
Does Pleat Count Matter?
by dkryan
09/15/14 09:38 PM
ATF Cooler Hose Broke
by jmb106
09/15/14 08:55 PM
Rotella T6 in Rotax 4-tec Supercharged
by Bluestream
09/15/14 08:14 PM
Newest Members
dougout, CDot, mazarnelli, poiyt, VAzx6R
51314 Registered Users
Who's Online
27 registered (97prizm, Doug Hillary, CATERHAM, Char Baby, andyd, ac_tc, 1 invisible), 580 Guests and 202 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
51314 Members
64 Forums
219295 Topics
3460462 Posts

Max Online: 2862 @ 07/07/14 03:10 PM
Donate to BITOG

Page 2 of 2 < 1 2
Topic Options
#3228342 - 12/26/13 02:09 PM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: kschachn]
SteveSRT8 Online   content


Registered: 10/10/08
Posts: 14711
Loc: Sunny Florida
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Why have you used it for years? What are you doing to your engine to require its use? Assuming it does anything in the first place, of course.

Glad you love it as you are making the sellers happy too. Just explain why you need it so much.

Originally Posted By: gr8gatzby
Have used ARX for years now and have only good experiences to share. Love the stuff. Recently though, I joined the ranks of the unemployed and cannot afford the price of admission. Are there competing additive packs that approach ARX effectiveness and quality, but at a lesser price? Thanks.


This really is an EXCELLENT question.
_________________________
"In a democracy, dissent is an act of faith."
J. William Fulbright
Best ET-12.79 @ 111 mph
4340 pounds, Street tires
Just like we go to Publix

Top
#3228396 - 12/26/13 03:04 PM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: Shannow]
Clevy Offline


Registered: 11/11/10
Posts: 7203
Loc: Saskatoon canada
Originally Posted By: Shannow
You could (and I have) take some Canola, some methanol (eg heet - I've used anhydrous ethanol before), some caustic, and manufacture RME (Rapeseed Methyl Ester)...google biodiesel soda bottle...AutoRx patent is lanolin, esterised with various alcohols.

Which will be an ester, with very high solvency....in fact changing to high levels of biodiesel in an older fuel system can stir up all sorts of junk.

I've added it to engines for the last 1,000km of an oil change, and had remarkably similar results to my runs of AutoRx...pretty much nothing noticeable.

Oil would need to be thick enough to handle the thinner solvent.



There you go op. Make your own
_________________________
2006 Charger RT
Miles x 2 per oil filter

Top
#3228865 - 12/27/13 03:45 AM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: gr8gatzby]
ac_tc Online   content


Registered: 05/06/08
Posts: 515
Loc: sweden
a quart of appropriate redline...here you have all the
esters you need.
My blend: 80-100% HDEO and the rest is redline xw-y (havent found 0w-20 yet, but when i do iŽd use it to thin the hdeo down a bit)
_________________________
-98 Dodge Durango 5.9 4*4 HDEO 10w- 40 ci4
-04 PT Cruser GT 10w- 40 HDEO ci4
-Everything else HDEO 10w- 40 ci4/STOU 10w-30/THF

Top
#3229863 - 12/28/13 09:06 AM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: Donald]
Trav Offline


Registered: 11/20/06
Posts: 9599
Loc: MA, Mittelfranken.de
Originally Posted By: Donald
I think a synthetic oil would provide a similar cleaning in a slow manner which is what ARX is all about.


+1 Some of the modern oils like PU, PP and some Mobil 1 have excellent cleaning abilities.
I had an engine apart a few months ago that had lots of varnish and some buildup, the Mobil 1 did a great job. The oil literally had a red tint from the varnish.
It does take time though and is not dependent so much on miles driven from what i saw.
_________________________
ASE L1, Master. Deutsch Meisterbrief.

Top
#3229949 - 12/28/13 11:08 AM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: gr8gatzby]
KCJeep Offline


Registered: 06/30/11
Posts: 4539
Loc: Mahzurrah!
The new Castrol gold bottle apparently has some bio-esters in it and would be an interesting candidate for this as well.
_________________________
2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0 @ 121k Pennzoil HM 10w30
Napa Silver 31515
KIA Sedona 38k, Chevy Lumina 171k, Chrysler Sebring 171k, Ford Ranger 175k!

Top
#3235833 - 01/03/14 12:02 PM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: gr8gatzby]
gr8gatzby Offline


Registered: 11/22/05
Posts: 588
Loc: Charlotte, NC
Thoughts on LC20?
_________________________
'95 Ford F150 | 4x4 | 5.8 | 13MPG
'96 Volvo 850 Wagon | I5 | 5SP | 24MPG

Top
#3235860 - 01/03/14 12:13 PM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: gr8gatzby]
ChrisD46 Offline


Registered: 09/10/10
Posts: 1155
Loc: GA.
What about MMO or Seafoam - both avilable locally as well ?

Top
#3235949 - 01/03/14 01:08 PM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: gr8gatzby]
MolaKule Offline


Registered: 06/05/02
Posts: 14468
Loc: Midwest
LC20 will remove carbon over time.

While it does clean carbon, it does not affect seal swell.
_________________________
"It only knows that it needs, it does not know WHAT it needs." Spock from Star Trek smile

Top
#3236739 - 01/04/14 04:32 AM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: Shannow]
sprintman Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 11006
Loc: Canberra ACT Australia
Originally Posted By: Shannow
You could (and I have) take some Canola, some methanol (eg heet - I've used anhydrous ethanol before), some caustic, and manufacture RME (Rapeseed Methyl Ester)...google biodiesel soda bottle...AutoRx patent is lanolin, esterised with various alcohols.

Which will be an ester, with very high solvency....in fact changing to high levels of biodiesel in an older fuel system can stir up all sorts of junk.

I've added it to engines for the last 1,000km of an oil change, and had remarkably similar results to my runs of AutoRx...pretty much nothing noticeable.

Oil would need to be thick enough to handle the thinner solvent.


I always go up a grade if using Arx (2 - 2 1/2 bottles), and run it 8-10,000 kms. 1,000 kms is pointless imo.

Top
#3237209 - 01/04/14 01:28 PM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: steveh]
Ken2 Offline


Registered: 12/02/02
Posts: 6147
Loc: Washington St.
Originally Posted By: steveh
All additives are very effective. They all do a excellent job of cleaning out your wallet!!
But, the car runs faster due to your lighter wallet.

If the engine has a specific problem, use the additive that is designed for that problem. Otherwise, save your money and just use any top brand oil.
_________________________
Every gun that is made, every warship launched..a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed.
Gen. Eisenhower


Top
#3238728 - 01/05/14 08:17 PM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: gr8gatzby]
andyd Online   content


Registered: 09/25/04
Posts: 3735
Loc: Marshfield , MA
Heh heh I add a pint of MMO to the oil to thin it for the winter. Any cleaning it does is a bonus. And I spilt a little so I got a good whiff of wintergreen. 6 bux wont break the budget and a pint sure wont kill anything. Happy New Year!
_________________________
2 1988 BMW 528e 20w50 dino, STP filter

1994 Ranger ,600$ Rat, 5w30 dino, STP filter

Top
Page 2 of 2 < 1 2