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#3227720 - 12/25/13 07:20 PM Valvoline Maxlife
BlueOvalFitter Offline


Registered: 02/28/03
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1996 Toyota Corolla, 1.8, 206K miles
Just recently my son started using VML 10W40. He was using ST HM 10W40 prior, and having to add a qt. about every 1K miles. That was better than a qt. every 8-900 miles using conventional oil.
He usually checks his oil every other gas fill. After 1150 miles on his VML OCI he added a qt. of oil today. And, he said his engine seems to run quieter since using VML. I thought his engine always ran quiet before. C'mon, it's a Toyota, AKA- a sewing machine. grin
Seriously, any opinions on the VML making an engine run quieter?
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#3227731 - 12/25/13 07:44 PM Re: Valvoline Maxlife [Re: BlueOvalFitter]
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Idk if it's in my head, but when I first got my saturn I remember it being pretty loud and clacky. After a while on valvoline maxlife it seemed to quiet down..
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#3227735 - 12/25/13 07:48 PM Re: Valvoline Maxlife [Re: BlueOvalFitter]
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I've never seen a VOA for VML but perhaps it has some boron in it. It's 100% true that some oils run quieter than others.
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#3227765 - 12/25/13 08:38 PM Re: Valvoline Maxlife [Re: BlueOvalFitter]
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It's also probably on the thicker side for ts grade, thus the quiet.

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#3227775 - 12/25/13 08:51 PM Re: Valvoline Maxlife [Re: GutsyGecko]
BlueOvalFitter Offline


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Originally Posted By: GutsyGecko
It's also probably on the thicker side for ts grade, thus the quiet.

Are you referring to it being a 10W40 or its add pack?
He stepped up to ST HM 10W40 over 5W30 conventional and said nothing about it making his engine run quieter. shrug
I have read stories here about certain name brand oils causing an engine to be more noisy over other name brand oils. (M1) hide
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#3227776 - 12/25/13 08:55 PM Re: Valvoline Maxlife [Re: BlueOvalFitter]
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I was just referring to the possibility that the VML might be slightly thicker at temp than the ST oil. Sometimes a slightly thicker oil will lessen the noise. But if the change from 5w-30 didn't lessen the noise, it's gotta be something in the add pack. Likely Boron.

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#3227782 - 12/25/13 09:03 PM Re: Valvoline Maxlife [Re: GutsyGecko]
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Originally Posted By: GutsyGecko
I was just referring to the possibility that the VML might be slightly thicker at temp than the ST oil. Sometimes a slightly thicker oil will lessen the noise. But if the change from 5w-30 didn't lessen the noise, it's gotta be something in the add pack. Likely Boron.

GG, you're the 2nd one to state that. I have also read a lot about VML. People that have used it think it was Heaven sent by Unicorns. And, I state that in a positive way.
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#3227795 - 12/25/13 09:15 PM Re: Valvoline Maxlife [Re: BlueOvalFitter]
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hide It made my Chevy 350 louder than with Castrol GTX HM hide
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#3227798 - 12/25/13 09:21 PM Re: Valvoline Maxlife [Re: Nick1994]
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Originally Posted By: Nick1994
hide It made my Chevy 350 louder than with Castrol GTX HM hide

In my racing/engine building days I would use Castrol GTX over many other oils. IMO, it "looks" like a thicker oil than most other oils.
I also used Kendall Nitro 70. That's a thick oil yeah.
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#3227808 - 12/25/13 09:27 PM Re: Valvoline Maxlife [Re: BlueOvalFitter]
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Different engines can exhibit different "preferences" for no apparent reason. Maxlife produces some of the best UOA's in the Jeep 4.0 you'll find, but it runs really loud in mine so I don't use it.

It runs very nicely in a couple of our other cars though.
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#3227855 - 12/25/13 10:28 PM Re: Valvoline Maxlife [Re: KCJeep]
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I see that VML and QS Defy are synthetic blend HM oils. Are all HM oils, that are not synthetic HM oils, synthetic blend?
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#3227887 - 12/25/13 11:02 PM Re: Valvoline Maxlife [Re: BlueOvalFitter]
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Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter

Seriously, any opinions on the VML making an engine run quieter?


Better lubrication always = quiet. And being Maxlife 10W-40 to boot, I don't doubt it.

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#3228010 - 12/26/13 06:21 AM Re: Valvoline Maxlife [Re: BlueOvalFitter]
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Loc: ny
Made my 98 gm 350 quieter than everything, even up against PU. I personally was very impressed with the VML.

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#3228021 - 12/26/13 06:47 AM Re: Valvoline Maxlife [Re: BlueOvalFitter]
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VML 5W30 made my '80 Firebird FORMULA V8 run quieter that other oils. DEFY took that quiet to another level, in a good/bad way. I don't want this engine that quiet laugh
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#3228119 - 12/26/13 09:38 AM Re: Valvoline Maxlife [Re: BlueOvalFitter]
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Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
I see that VML and QS Defy are synthetic blend HM oils. Are all HM oils, that are not synthetic HM oils, synthetic blend?


When looking at the msds for Defy, it looks like it is actually a full synthetic but not labels as one...
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