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#3204339 - 12/02/13 08:25 PM Revived 1995 Geo Metro...
dino33 Offline


Registered: 02/11/13
Posts: 70
Loc: British Columbia
Hi guys. Just bought my room mate's 1995 Geo Metro for $325! I'm a full time Pizza Delivery Driver so I thought this would be a great back up vehicle just in case. At that price I just can't lose. My Roomy has put in a new clutch, timing belt, brakes and it is running good except for the fact it is using/losing oil at about one quart per 250 miles. I see no smoke unless I rev it up close to red line then I see a little blue/gray.

I have changed all the fluids, tune up, cleaned the vacuum lines, pcv valve. Now I just have to deal with the oil loss. My mechanic says the oil appears to be dripping out of the distributor seal and possibly the oil pan gasket. He also thinks it's burning some oil but that it should have a substantial life expectancy still with only a little over a hundred K miles on her.

What do you think of my plan?: Replace the distributor seal and oil pan gasket then use Maxlife 5w30 with a Mobil 1 M-209 over sized filter and some LubriMoly Ceratek?

My other option is to use some AT-205 Re-Seal and see if the seals swell up enough and am able to avoid having to replace the distributor seal.

Any other ideas? Thanks in advance!!! smile
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#3204351 - 12/02/13 08:30 PM Re: Revived 1995 Geo Metro... [Re: dino33]
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Registered: 12/14/02
Posts: 33299
Loc: New Jersey
How tough is it to do the distributor seal?

Problem with cheap cars is that you pay more in insurance than it cost to buy it. Id try to replace it DIY. Sounds like you have another car, so no big deal if this is out of commission. Id attack the easily replaced parts with actual parts, and then try another fix for the ones above your skill level.

Because of the value of the car, Id want to get it fixed for cheap, so Id look into a local technical school or something like that where they could do the job for just the cost of parts... If you decided you couldn't attempt any fixes. Real fixes are far superior to any chemical in a bottle.

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#3204352 - 12/02/13 08:34 PM Re: Revived 1995 Geo Metro... [Re: JHZR2]
dino33 Offline


Registered: 02/11/13
Posts: 70
Loc: British Columbia
Thanks, the mechanic said it a fairly easy job to do the seals. He works out of his house and usually charges half price of a mechanics shop.
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#3204366 - 12/02/13 08:46 PM Re: Revived 1995 Geo Metro... [Re: dino33]
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Registered: 08/16/12
Posts: 414
Loc: Youngstown, OH
Do a proper repair. It's worth it in the long run.

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#3204368 - 12/02/13 08:46 PM Re: Revived 1995 Geo Metro... [Re: dino33]
Donald Offline


Registered: 03/21/04
Posts: 13203
Loc: Upstate NY
Always replace any easy/cheap seals or gaskets. Don't try a seal sweller for something easy.

I assume you have a few problems. But deal with them one at a time.

Have you checked compression?

Color of tail pipe?

Smoke at startup?

Your oil control rings may be gummed up. A good synthetic may do the cleaning or Kreen or Auto-Rx.
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#3204375 - 12/02/13 08:51 PM Re: Revived 1995 Geo Metro... [Re: dino33]
Spazdog Offline


Registered: 09/06/10
Posts: 5492
Loc: Arlington
bargain thumbsup

As badly as I abused my Suzuki Swift (same car w/ G13 4 cyl instead of G10 3 cyl) I still wonder how so many of these little Canadian made Geos died. It was not a pleasant car but it was tough.

I don't know if I would spend the money on the Mobil 1 filter. shrug Seems to me the little 'Zook might reject quality filters crackmeup "Chateaubriand? Don't you got no chopped steak?"
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#3204385 - 12/02/13 08:59 PM Re: Revived 1995 Geo Metro... [Re: Spazdog]
dino33 Offline


Registered: 02/11/13
Posts: 70
Loc: British Columbia
Lol, I got the Mobil filter on sale!
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#3204388 - 12/02/13 09:04 PM Re: Revived 1995 Geo Metro... [Re: Donald]
dino33 Offline


Registered: 02/11/13
Posts: 70
Loc: British Columbia
Thanks Donald. I cleaned up the engine with MMO with a couple of oil changes. There's no smoke at all at start up, only when the engine is hot and revs high is there a little blue smoke. The tail pipe is a little on the black side so I changed the spark plugs and wires, etc. I'm pretty sure I'll just go ahead and change the seals.

One other thing I was thinking about is trying some Hyperlube oil stabalizer, or lucas synthetic oil stabilizer. I know there a many critics here who would abhor such an idea but there are those who swear by the stuff on high mileage engines. they seem to have good customer reviews. hide
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#3204392 - 12/02/13 09:09 PM Re: Revived 1995 Geo Metro... [Re: dino33]
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Registered: 02/23/07
Posts: 7058
Loc: Walker, MI
If I were you, I would just use an oil that is formulated to help older engines (i.e. Valvoline MaxLife or Pennzoil High Mileage). I tend to use those in cars that leak or burn oil. It does help for leaks, just not so much for burning IMO.
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#3204440 - 12/02/13 10:08 PM Re: Revived 1995 Geo Metro... [Re: dino33]
Quest Offline


Registered: 12/19/04
Posts: 6275
Loc: beaver land EH?
Yes, there's an o-ring on the distributor housing shaft part, a 2 dollar deal that you can get from either aftermarket or dealership. a small dab of vaseline, a punch to scribe the housing to block (so as to remember the orientation of the housing in respect to ignition timing), 12mm socket and 15 mins (max) of your time and that's it.

Also: as mileage creeps up, valve stem seal may become an issue due to poor oil maintenance from previous ownership. oil control rings may become stuck if there were thermostat failure before (kept wide open/coolant cold).

Q.
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#3204451 - 12/02/13 10:13 PM Re: Revived 1995 Geo Metro... [Re: dino33]
actionstan Offline


Registered: 05/22/13
Posts: 426
Loc: Ohio
I think your plan is sound, you said you got the mobil filter on sale which is fine, once the go off sale/your stash runs out is run whatever cheap filter you can find, probably like a purolator classic or something similar. You can't go wrong with a fill of maxlife. I'd probably skip on the extra additive maxlife will do great on its own, but that's up to you.. But me paying only 325 for a car, I'd dump as little money as possible into it.


Edited by actionstan (12/02/13 10:15 PM)
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#3204456 - 12/02/13 10:17 PM Re: Revived 1995 Geo Metro... [Re: dino33]
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Registered: 04/09/08
Posts: 6108
Loc: Onondaga County
I'd use the $300 car to deliver pizzas - not the nice one.
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#3204493 - 12/02/13 10:48 PM Re: Revived 1995 Geo Metro... [Re: Miller88]
dino33 Offline


Registered: 02/11/13
Posts: 70
Loc: British Columbia
Thanks guys,

I'm thinking the same Miller. I got a great deal for the Prius at an auction. Thought it'd be a great delivery vehicle, and it has, but the insurance is cheaper on the Metro, I don't have to worry about getting the little Geo damaged, and it's actually a lot of fun to drive!


Edited by dino33 (12/02/13 10:49 PM)
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#3204558 - 12/03/13 01:33 AM Re: Revived 1995 Geo Metro... [Re: dino33]
Wolf359 Offline


Registered: 04/27/12
Posts: 340
Loc: MA
Don't forget that the Geo Metro was also on the list of top 10 death cars along with Mustangs and Corvettes. I guess if you drive mostly in the city you're probably fine.

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#3204584 - 12/03/13 05:08 AM Re: Revived 1995 Geo Metro... [Re: dino33]
eljefino Offline


Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 23569
Loc: ME
Originally Posted By: dino33
Thanks guys,

I'm thinking the same Miller. I got a great deal for the Prius at an auction. Thought it'd be a great delivery vehicle, and it has, but the insurance is cheaper on the Metro, I don't have to worry about getting the little Geo damaged, and it's actually a lot of fun to drive!


Also consider your appearance when you deliver pizza. Prius might say "law school grad not employed in their field" while a Geo might say "thrifty student going to make it big". Or, IDK. Run a double blind test and see what gets better tips. laugh

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