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#3192144 - 11/19/13 04:51 PM PQIA Tests 5W-20 Motor Oils
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PQIA has completed it's first round of testing on 5W-20 oils. Many of the Noack results are pushing the limit, and some have exceeded it. Otherwise they look as expected.

Petroleum Quality Institute of America

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#3192149 - 11/19/13 04:58 PM Re: PQIA Tests 5W-20 Motor Oils [Re: Tom NJ]
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Thanks for sharing!
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#3192154 - 11/19/13 05:02 PM Re: PQIA Tests 5W-20 Motor Oils [Re: Tom NJ]
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The NOACK thing is interesting. IIRC we've discussed that on the forums before.
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#3192155 - 11/19/13 05:03 PM Re: PQIA Tests 5W-20 Motor Oils [Re: Tom NJ]
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Got to like that Havoline!!
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#3192161 - 11/19/13 05:11 PM Re: PQIA Tests 5W-20 Motor Oils [Re: Tom NJ]
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Their copy says something about the use of 5W-20 growing. I'm not sure about that, since the carmakers that went to 5W-20 are nearly all shifting to 0W-20 by now.

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#3192168 - 11/19/13 05:20 PM Re: PQIA Tests 5W-20 Motor Oils [Re: y_p_w]
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Originally Posted By: y_p_w
Their copy says something about the use of 5W-20 growing. I'm not sure about that, since the carmakers that went to 5W-20 are nearly all shifting to 0W-20 by now.

Yup. And then they backspec their older models to allow for 0W-20.
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#3192176 - 11/19/13 05:28 PM Re: PQIA Tests 5W-20 Motor Oils [Re: Tom NJ]
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Yep Havoline looks the best out of the bunch. I can't find much wrong with it except it needs a little more moly. I sure hope they do the top tier conventional and synthetics soon.
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#3192178 - 11/19/13 05:28 PM Re: PQIA Tests 5W-20 Motor Oils [Re: Tom NJ]
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Interesting. Isn’t there decent evidence that VIIs come with volatility drawbacks in some/many cases though? I would have expected the 5w20s to do better than the 5w30s.

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#3192180 - 11/19/13 05:32 PM Re: PQIA Tests 5W-20 Motor Oils [Re: Tom NJ]
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The havoline is full synthetic and the rest are conventional and blends? It should be the winner out of this group tested.
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#3192199 - 11/19/13 05:53 PM Re: PQIA Tests 5W-20 Motor Oils [Re: Tom NJ]
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I'd like to see the dino Havoline DS 5W20 as I have a boat load of it, as well as a decent stash of the Havoline Synthetic 5W20


Edited by Char Baby (11/19/13 05:56 PM)
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#3192217 - 11/19/13 06:14 PM Re: PQIA Tests 5W-20 Motor Oils [Re: Tom NJ]
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Interesting how the lightest -30C oil tested, and second highest VI, also has the lowest NOACK.


Edited by martinq (11/19/13 06:15 PM)

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#3192243 - 11/19/13 06:40 PM Re: PQIA Tests 5W-20 Motor Oils [Re: Tom NJ]
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these seem like odd brands to start withother than the shell and havline. where's sopus, mobil, Valvoline, ST, AZ, AAP etc. guess coming later

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#3192251 - 11/19/13 06:51 PM Re: PQIA Tests 5W-20 Motor Oils [Re: SLATRON]
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Originally Posted By: SLATRON
these seem like odd brands to start withother than the shell and havline. where's sopus, mobil, Valvoline, ST, AZ, AAP etc. guess coming later

Most people aren't suspicious of the big brands, although I suppose they wanted to have a representative sample. Even so, I know some people who are suspicious about the quality of FormulaShell, since it's traditionally been a bargain brand when sold in the US.

The last time I remember Shell heavily marketing motor oil in the US was for "Fire & Ice":


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#3192253 - 11/19/13 06:53 PM Re: PQIA Tests 5W-20 Motor Oils [Re: martinq]
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Originally Posted By: martinq
Interesting how the lightest -30C oil tested, and second highest VI, also has the lowest NOACK.


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#3192269 - 11/19/13 07:08 PM Re: PQIA Tests 5W-20 Motor Oils [Re: Tom NJ]
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Originally Posted By: Tom NJ
PQIA has completed it's first round of testing on 5W-20 oils. Many of the Noack results are pushing the limit, and some have exceeded it. Otherwise they look as expected.

Petroleum Quality Institute of America

Tom NJ


I can't seem to find these tests on there. Can you give the exact place it is?

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