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#3190714 - 11/18/13 02:43 AM Mobil 1 Afe 0w30 in 1,3 turbodiesel multijet 75hp
Giorgiz Offline


Registered: 03/28/13
Posts: 32
Loc: Italy
Hi, I try to insert this oil in my turbo Multijet 75 hp that I use every day, mostly in short cycles to go to work, 2 km, and some longer journey of 15 km, quiet ride mostly in the city.

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#3190718 - 11/18/13 03:15 AM Re: Mobil 1 Afe 0w30 in 1,3 turbodiesel multijet 75hp [Re: Giorgiz]
bigjl Offline


Registered: 09/06/12
Posts: 1694
Loc: London, England
I would have thought you could run Mobil 1 0w40 in that engine.

New Life or Turbo Diesel if you have no Dpf

Or ESP if you have a Dpf fitted. As that is what they spec for the same engine in the later Corsa.

Though I would expect the 0w30 to do you just fine.

What is oil availability like in Italy?

What brands can you get hold of easily?
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06 Clio1.5DCi,129k 6kOCI Shell Extra 5w40
08 Pathfinder 2.5 Dci 122k 5kOCI Castrol Edge FST 5w30
12 Jaguar XJL 3.0 D Luxury 108k 8kOCI Mob 1 ESP 5w30

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#3190739 - 11/18/13 05:09 AM Re: Mobil 1 Afe 0w30 in 1,3 turbodiesel multijet 75hp [Re: Giorgiz]
Giorgiz Offline


Registered: 03/28/13
Posts: 32
Loc: Italy
I have discarded as 0W40 too heavy for short cycles, I was oriented on afe 0w30, or 0w30 esp, but esp is heavier than afe. The car does not have the dpf

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#3190742 - 11/18/13 05:19 AM Re: Mobil 1 Afe 0w30 in 1,3 turbodiesel multijet 75hp [Re: Giorgiz]
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Registered: 12/12/02
Posts: 26334
Loc: a prison island
If you've discarded 0W-40 as too heavy, and the ESP...then you have the choice(s) that are left...

Mobil do not state that this oil is recommended for turbodiesels

http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil_1_0W-30_Advanced_Fuel_Economy.aspx

Does your manual offer any hints as to what the OEM recommends ?

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#3190750 - 11/18/13 05:44 AM Re: Mobil 1 Afe 0w30 in 1,3 turbodiesel multijet 75hp [Re: Giorgiz]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 20988
Loc: NY
Wouldn't Mobil 1 5w30 ESP or 0W40 be better choices than 0W30 AFE? Especially since Mobil doesn't even recommend AFE for diesel engines?
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#3190755 - 11/18/13 06:01 AM Re: Mobil 1 Afe 0w30 in 1,3 turbodiesel multijet 75hp [Re: Giorgiz]
bigjl Offline


Registered: 09/06/12
Posts: 1694
Loc: London, England
My wifes Clio dci has been used for lots or short trips, multiple stop and starts on a warm engine and has been run on mostly 0w40 Mobil 1 New Life and Turbo Diesel.

Also had a run of 5w40 ELF full synth from Renault dealer.

Also a run on 10w40 Maxlife Diesel which made the car turn over really slowly on a cold start but must have cleaned something up as the turbo was showing signs of sticky variable vanes in the turbo.

I can see your point though.

No dpf is good news.

And you can't go wrong with Mobil products.

It is interesting that the same engine is specced differently by two manufacturers.

I don't think there is sny wrong answer here really.

I reckon you will be fine either way.

I must admit to being tempted to use 5w30 in the Clio now winter is approaching.

Nothing to do with the fact i have almost 4 litres of Shell AFL 5w30 C1 and 3 litres of Mobil Super x1 FE 5w30 sitting in the garage and a new filter for the Clio.

Actually as it is due i think i will get that done this week.

The 1.5dci lump is specced up for 5w30 low saps when it has a dpf so should be fine in the non dpf engine.

Best of luck with your choice and let the forum know your decision.
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06 Clio1.5DCi,129k 6kOCI Shell Extra 5w40
08 Pathfinder 2.5 Dci 122k 5kOCI Castrol Edge FST 5w30
12 Jaguar XJL 3.0 D Luxury 108k 8kOCI Mob 1 ESP 5w30

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#3190759 - 11/18/13 06:10 AM Re: Mobil 1 Afe 0w30 in 1,3 turbodiesel multijet 75hp [Re: Giorgiz]
bigjl Offline


Registered: 09/06/12
Posts: 1694
Loc: London, England
AFE is a low HTHS oil.

If you can get hold of a workshop manual you can confirm if you can run low HTHS.

My diesel Pathfinder can run on both and so can the Clio 1.5 dci i think.

What about Mobil Delvac 1 LE 5w30? It is reputed to aid economy and provide advamced wear protection. And can be left in for a longer oil change interval due to its Heavy Duty origins.

If you are going outside of the box you might aswell do it with both feet.

With UOA you might be able to push the interval several thousand km further.
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06 Clio1.5DCi,129k 6kOCI Shell Extra 5w40
08 Pathfinder 2.5 Dci 122k 5kOCI Castrol Edge FST 5w30
12 Jaguar XJL 3.0 D Luxury 108k 8kOCI Mob 1 ESP 5w30

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#3190775 - 11/18/13 06:36 AM Re: Mobil 1 Afe 0w30 in 1,3 turbodiesel multijet 75hp [Re: Giorgiz]
Cujet Offline


Registered: 02/15/03
Posts: 4096
Loc: Jupiter, Florida
Diesels place particular demands on oil. While thin oil has many advantages, an automotive oil, engineered for fuel economy, won't contain the additives necessary to deal with excessive carbon loading, high acid content, higher internal engine loads and possibly camshaft lobe loads.

It's always best to use a diesel rated oil in diesel engines.

Don't think that because your exhaust is clean that the engine is also. It's as dirty and as tough on oil as any diesel. There is no magic there. For example: modern diesels have high rates of EGR flow, introducing massive quantities of contaminates into the oil, through blowby past the piston rings.

Choose appropriately.

If it were me using a NON STANDARD OIL, I'd pick an oil with a robust additive package and plenty of acid combating capability. Then perform early oil changes and Used Oil Analysis.

You might be best served by a PAO based synthetic, as they remain considerably thinner when cold compared to conventional Group III synthetics (which are simply severely hydrotreated dino oils)
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#3190807 - 11/18/13 07:42 AM Re: Mobil 1 Afe 0w30 in 1,3 turbodiesel multijet 75hp [Re: Giorgiz]
bigjl Offline


Registered: 09/06/12
Posts: 1694
Loc: London, England
Mobil 1 AFE is an A1/B1, A5/B5 rated oil so meets the most stringent specs for both diesel and petrol engines.
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06 Clio1.5DCi,129k 6kOCI Shell Extra 5w40
08 Pathfinder 2.5 Dci 122k 5kOCI Castrol Edge FST 5w30
12 Jaguar XJL 3.0 D Luxury 108k 8kOCI Mob 1 ESP 5w30

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#3190885 - 11/18/13 09:57 AM Re: Mobil 1 Afe 0w30 in 1,3 turbodiesel multijet 75hp [Re: Giorgiz]
Andy636 Offline


Registered: 12/30/10
Posts: 418
Loc: Romania
Shell Helix Diesel Ultra Extra 5w40...awesome oil for all year round in my 1.3 Mjet van...give it a try and you will be impressed.

In bocca a lupo smile

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#3191501 - 11/19/13 12:23 AM Re: Mobil 1 Afe 0w30 in 1,3 turbodiesel multijet 75hp [Re: Giorgiz]
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Registered: 06/12/12
Posts: 870
Loc: Melbourne, Australia
Mobil 1 ESP 5w30 is recommended by Mobil for your engine. I guess you could use M1 ESP 0w30 if you can get that.

I know most people in Italy drive at least 140-150km/hr on the highway even in small cars. It's up to you if you want to use an oil with a lower HTHS than recommended. I wouldn't

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#3191730 - 11/19/13 09:29 AM Re: Mobil 1 Afe 0w30 in 1,3 turbodiesel multijet 75hp [Re: Giorgiz]
Giorgiz Offline


Registered: 03/28/13
Posts: 32
Loc: Italy
I decided for the mobil 1 esp 0w30, thanks for the valuable advice.

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#3192531 - 11/20/13 01:47 AM Re: Mobil 1 Afe 0w30 in 1,3 turbodiesel multijet 75hp [Re: Giorgiz]
bigjl Offline


Registered: 09/06/12
Posts: 1694
Loc: London, England
Can't go wrong with that oil

Not cheap

But quality never is
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06 Clio1.5DCi,129k 6kOCI Shell Extra 5w40
08 Pathfinder 2.5 Dci 122k 5kOCI Castrol Edge FST 5w30
12 Jaguar XJL 3.0 D Luxury 108k 8kOCI Mob 1 ESP 5w30

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#3192823 - 11/20/13 11:09 AM Re: Mobil 1 Afe 0w30 in 1,3 turbodiesel multijet 75hp [Re: demarpaint]
tig1 Offline


Registered: 01/03/09
Posts: 9766
Loc: Illinois
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Wouldn't Mobil 1 5w30 ESP or 0W40 be better choices than 0W30 AFE? Especially since Mobil doesn't even recommend AFE for diesel engines?


Actually M1 0-30AFE does have the CF rating. Here is the PDS.

http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil_1_0W-30_Advanced_Fuel_Economy.aspx
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2007 Ford Fusion 141,000 miles
M1 0-20
2007 Ford Focus 127,000 miles
M1 0-20
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF
M1 10-30 in all OPE

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