Liqui Moly - Synth Oil 0w40 vs Mobil 1 0w40
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M1 0W40 is not classified as a Grp III oil, its a Visom blend which is proprietary and meeting all the stringent specs it does, its certainly a synthetic.
Master Powered by Amsoil - OilMaster - OilM 0w40 will work good too......
Mobil 1 is the way to go, or pay 2 to 3 times for other 0w40's.
Mobil 1 is the way to go, or pay 2 to 3 times for other 0w40's.
Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
M1 0W40 is not classified as a Grp III oil, its a Visom blend which is proprietary and meeting all the stringent specs it does, its certainly a synthetic.
It is a group III+.
The Synthoil Energy 0w40 is NOT Porsche approved, it is only recommended for that application. Also only API SM. HTHS of 3.6 but VI is almost identical to M1 0w40. Might be a good fit for a Euro motor that can safely stay on the thin side.
M1 0W40 is not classified as a Grp III oil, its a Visom blend which is proprietary and meeting all the stringent specs it does, its certainly a synthetic.
It is a group III+.
The Synthoil Energy 0w40 is NOT Porsche approved, it is only recommended for that application. Also only API SM. HTHS of 3.6 but VI is almost identical to M1 0w40. Might be a good fit for a Euro motor that can safely stay on the thin side.
LM makes great stuff, but M1 easily wins the price and availability awards.
LM does win the 10w60 battle though, so if you ever have a post-2000 BMW M car, use it with confidence, since it is the only 10w60 that's sold in US stores (most Napas have it, and the ones that don't can easily order it).
I have wanted to try LM's oils though, but it just doesn't make sense in light of easy M1 and Edge availability.
It would be awesome to see PQIA test their oil, though.
@dparm, does Porsche actually approve oil for A40, the way GM approves dexos and Chrysler's ATF+4 program? I thought it was "just" a spec.
LM does win the 10w60 battle though, so if you ever have a post-2000 BMW M car, use it with confidence, since it is the only 10w60 that's sold in US stores (most Napas have it, and the ones that don't can easily order it).
I have wanted to try LM's oils though, but it just doesn't make sense in light of easy M1 and Edge availability.
It would be awesome to see PQIA test their oil, though.
@dparm, does Porsche actually approve oil for A40, the way GM approves dexos and Chrysler's ATF+4 program? I thought it was "just" a spec.
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Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
M1 0W40 is not classified as a Grp III oil, its a Visom blend which is proprietary and meeting all the stringent specs it does, its certainly a synthetic.
"Visom" = Grp III
Kinda. It is a bit like GTL in that it doesn't quite fit the standard definition
Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
M1 0W40 is not classified as a Grp III oil, its a Visom blend which is proprietary and meeting all the stringent specs it does, its certainly a synthetic.
"Visom" = Grp III
Kinda. It is a bit like GTL in that it doesn't quite fit the standard definition
I stand by my claim of group III+.
Originally Posted By: tommygunn
@dparm, does Porsche actually approve oil for A40, the way GM approves dexos and Chrysler's ATF+4 program? I thought it was "just" a spec.
Yes, there is definitely an approval list. You can do a Google search for it.
@dparm, does Porsche actually approve oil for A40, the way GM approves dexos and Chrysler's ATF+4 program? I thought it was "just" a spec.
Yes, there is definitely an approval list. You can do a Google search for it.
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Ndx - Yes, LM is a reputable Company and a supplier of FF to some German Manufacturers.
At one stage they supplied Daimler-Benz (Daimler AG) with FF along with a number of others - they may still be.............
Ndx - Yes, LM is a reputable Company and a supplier of FF to some German Manufacturers.
At one stage they supplied Daimler-Benz (Daimler AG) with FF along with a number of others - they may still be.............
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