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#3177211 - 11/03/13 01:36 PM power flow pf-1 oil additive??
dixon700 Offline


Registered: 10/11/13
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At work last night a driver wanted this additive added to his transmission. He said its what the army is running in everything. It said it contains no moly, Teflon, sulfur, and other things I can't remember... Has anyone ever heard of this additive? Is it just more snake oil? It had claims similar to motor kote.
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#3177212 - 11/03/13 01:37 PM Re: power flow pf-1 oil additive?? [Re: dixon700]
dixon700 Offline


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If the bottle is still there I'll get a pic of it.
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#3177250 - 11/03/13 02:14 PM Re: power flow pf-1 oil additive?? [Re: dixon700]
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Usually the military makes good decisions, but......
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#3177264 - 11/03/13 02:37 PM Re: power flow pf-1 oil additive?? [Re: oilboy123]
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Makes good decisions ??? i wish i could get into that here but it is against Bitog policy and with good reason..

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#3177331 - 11/03/13 03:53 PM Re: power flow pf-1 oil additive?? [Re: oilboy123]
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Originally Posted By: oilboy123
Usually the military makes good decisions, but......


Army intelligence is an oxymoron.
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#3177332 - 11/03/13 03:53 PM Re: power flow pf-1 oil additive?? [Re: dixon700]
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Buy high quality ATF like Redline or Amsoil and forget the additives.
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#3177360 - 11/03/13 04:39 PM Re: power flow pf-1 oil additive?? [Re: dixon700]
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Keep in mind that if they are using one, it's from the lowest bidder.
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#3178157 - 11/04/13 12:29 PM Re: power flow pf-1 oil additive?? [Re: dixon700]
dixon700 Offline


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I made an error it is power fluids Pf-1 additive. I do not have an auto I shift my own gears. The trans the guy wanted it added to was an Eaton rearranged 10speed. My nv5600 has 9qts of amsoil syncromesh with fast coolers. Anyways this additive states it can be added to engine, trans, rears, and what ever else. I'm just trying to see if it is more false advertising.
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#3183810 - 11/10/13 12:21 PM Re: power flow pf-1 oil additive?? [Re: dixon700]
dixon700 Offline


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So no one has ever heard anything about this additive? Power fluids pf-1.
(i would fix the title, but I see no way to edit anything...)
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#3183841 - 11/10/13 01:08 PM Re: power flow pf-1 oil additive?? [Re: dixon700]
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Originally Posted By: dixon700
So no one has ever heard anything about this additive? Power fluids pf-1.
(i would fix the title, but I see no way to edit anything...)


You can try to notify the mods about the title change you'd like to make. Hit the notify button and give it a shot if you'd like.
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#3184208 - 11/10/13 07:54 PM Re: power flow pf-1 oil additive?? [Re: demarpaint]
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Haven't heard of it before, but here it is: Power Fluids PF-1
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#3392685 - 06/09/14 02:57 AM Re: power flow pf-1 oil additive?? [Re: dixon700]
dixon700 Offline


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I shelled out my nv5600. I don't believe I'm going to try any sort of additives anymore for anything and just try to stick to good fluids.
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#3392755 - 06/09/14 07:16 AM Re: power flow pf-1 oil additive?? [Re: dixon700]
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Registered: 04/25/13
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Loc: North Bend
Originally Posted By: dixon700
At work last night a driver wanted this additive added to his transmission. He said its what the army is running in everything. It said it contains no moly, Teflon, sulfur, and other things I can't remember... Has anyone ever heard of this additive? Is it just more snake oil? It had claims similar to motor kote.

1) Never heard of it.

2) The Power Flow PF-1 website is basically worthless (surprise, surprise). From the description, they might be using MoS2, except that they mention "contains no solids" and "no build-up".

3) The MSDS doesn't reveal much except this: "APPEARANCE / ODOR: Amber / Hydrocarbon". If it's amber, then it probably does not contain MoS2. Maybe some other form of moly??

4) If you rule out MoS2, then it could be just mineral oil ( la Z-Max - >99% mineral oil).

5) Or, there's a chance they are using PTFE (Teflon) - a popular magic ingredient - in which event you might want to use it as a shelf decoration or paper weight.

6) As for the U S Army using it, that's a definite negative.

7) Good luck trying to buy some. If you go to their 'where to buy' page, it is almost empty.
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#3393160 - 06/09/14 04:02 PM Re: power flow pf-1 oil additive?? [Re: dixon700]
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A smooth, oiled surface is more slippery and creates less friction than a non-oiled surface.


Ya Think? crzy
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#3393180 - 06/09/14 04:29 PM Re: power flow pf-1 oil additive?? [Re: dixon700]
Clevy Offline


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The write up claims no moly,so scratch that.

I'm leery of anything called a metal conditioner. How do you condition metal.
I'm betting it's a chlorinated paraffin which we all know is bad.
By the sounds of the description of how it works I'm betting chlorinated parafin.

Therefore don't use. It's junk.
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