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#3140524 - 09/30/13 01:21 PM To use 0W30 in place of 5W30.
stchman Offline


Registered: 09/25/13
Posts: 498
Loc: St. Louis, MO
A friend of mine, his father is preaching for me to run 0W30 over 5W30 in my 2013 Silverado.

The manual calls for 5W30, but GM is now recommending 0W20 in the new 2014 5.3L engine.

Many folks are calling 0W30 the new 5W30.

I would gather that 0W30 would have slightly better cold starting properties than 5W30.

Any thoughts?


Edited by stchman (09/30/13 01:21 PM)
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#3140535 - 09/30/13 01:29 PM Re: To use 0W30 in place of 5W30. [Re: stchman]
MileHigh18 Offline


Registered: 09/11/13
Posts: 180
Loc: TN
I too have been thinking of going with a 0-30 in my Trailblazer for the very same reasons as you. I was told that TN winters aren't cold enough to HAVE to switch to a 0-30, but that it also wouldn't hurt anything. I'm sure your winters are much worse than ours in TN are, so I wouldn't see why an oil with better cold flow properties wouldn't be the way to go for you. I hate the way my engine sounds in the winters with a cold start.
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#3140537 - 09/30/13 01:31 PM Re: To use 0W30 in place of 5W30. [Re: stchman]
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Registered: 09/12/12
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There should be no harm in running a 0W-30, but not much in the way of benefits in St. Louis. It's not like it gets really cold there and you therefore need to make use of the better uber-cold flow properties at startup.
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#3140541 - 09/30/13 01:34 PM Re: To use 0W30 in place of 5W30. [Re: stchman]
MileHigh18 Offline


Registered: 09/11/13
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A better flowing oil is always better though isn't it?
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#3140550 - 09/30/13 01:39 PM Re: To use 0W30 in place of 5W30. [Re: stchman]
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Not really. lUBRICANTYS ARE chosen with a viscosity range to give good service life to the machinery as designed and its operating environment.
Some thin oils will sacrifice lubricity for cold flowability. There are tradeoffs as in most anything.
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#3140554 - 09/30/13 01:42 PM Re: To use 0W30 in place of 5W30. [Re: ARCOgraphite]
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Registered: 05/12/08
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Loc: Easton, PA
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Not really. lUBRICANTYS ARE chosen with a viscosity range to give good service life to the machinery as designed and its operating environment.
Some thin oils will sacrifice lubricity for cold flowability. There are tradeoffs as in most anything.


OKAY My friend.....: ) (just bustin your chops)


Edited by lexus114 (09/30/13 01:43 PM)
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#3140594 - 09/30/13 02:25 PM Re: To use 0W30 in place of 5W30. [Re: stchman]
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GM says 0w-30 is ok to use in place of 5w30

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#3140632 - 09/30/13 02:58 PM Re: To use 0W30 in place of 5W30. [Re: ARCOgraphite]
kschachn Offline


Registered: 12/26/05
Posts: 2334
Loc: Upper Midwest
0W-30 is a thin oil?

Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Some thin oils will sacrifice lubricity for cold flowability. There are tradeoffs as in most anything.
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#3140635 - 09/30/13 02:59 PM Re: To use 0W30 in place of 5W30. [Re: volk06]
kschachn Offline


Registered: 12/26/05
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Loc: Upper Midwest
So does ExxonMobil.

Isn't this about the 8,000,000th time this question was asked?

Originally Posted By: volk06
GM says 0w-30 is ok to use in place of 5w30
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#3140639 - 09/30/13 03:04 PM Re: To use 0W30 in place of 5W30. [Re: volk06]
stchman Offline


Registered: 09/25/13
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Loc: St. Louis, MO
Originally Posted By: volk06
GM says 0w-30 is ok to use in place of 5w30


True, GM does allow the user to use 0W30 in extreme cold temperatures.

Here is an excerpt form the owners manual.

Quote:

Cold Temperature Operation: In an area of extreme cold, where the temperature falls below 29C(-20F), an SAE 0W-30 oil may be used. An oil of this viscosity grade will provide easier cold starting for the engine at extremely low temperatures.


Edited by stchman (09/30/13 03:05 PM)
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#3140649 - 09/30/13 03:16 PM Re: To use 0W30 in place of 5W30. [Re: stchman]
EricF Offline


Registered: 07/14/09
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Loc: SF Bay Area
Hope the 0w30 is Dexos approved.
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#3140665 - 09/30/13 03:30 PM Re: To use 0W30 in place of 5W30. [Re: EricF]
kschachn Offline


Registered: 12/26/05
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Loc: Upper Midwest
Why do you "hope"? If it is M1 AFE 0W-30 then it is, per ExxonMobil's website.

Originally Posted By: EricF
Hope the 0w30 is Dexos approved.
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#3140673 - 09/30/13 03:34 PM Re: To use 0W30 in place of 5W30. [Re: EricF]
stchman Offline


Registered: 09/25/13
Posts: 498
Loc: St. Louis, MO
Originally Posted By: EricF
Hope the 0w30 is Dexos approved.


Yes Mobil 1 has the following dexos licensed weights:

0W20, 0W30, 5W20, 5W30, 5W20EP, 5W30EP

Mobil 1 has the bases covered.
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#3140676 - 09/30/13 03:37 PM Re: To use 0W30 in place of 5W30. [Re: ARCOgraphite]
AP9 Offline


Registered: 07/10/13
Posts: 211
Loc: Chicago suburbs
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Not really. lUBRICANTYS ARE chosen with a viscosity range to give good service life to the machinery as designed and its operating environment.
Some thin oils will sacrifice lubricity for cold flowability. There are tradeoffs as in most anything.


In theory, the difference in lubricity would be negligible though. The 0W is just rated for pumpability at a lower temperature than the 5W.

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#3140677 - 09/30/13 03:37 PM Re: To use 0W30 in place of 5W30. [Re: stchman]
jrustles Offline


Registered: 02/24/13
Posts: 1716
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: stchman
Originally Posted By: volk06
GM says 0w-30 is ok to use in place of 5w30


True, GM does allow the user to use 0W30 in extreme cold temperatures.

Here is an excerpt form the owners manual.

Quote:

Cold Temperature Operation: In an area of extreme cold, where the temperature falls below 29C(-20F), an SAE 0W-30 oil may be used. An oil of this viscosity grade will provide easier cold starting for the engine at extremely low temperatures.


+1 0w30 in a 5w30 application if cold starts are expected, but wouldn't wait for -29C, -5 to -10C will do.
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