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#3132590 - 09/22/13 03:54 PM Random no crank on 95 ram 5.9
ram_man Offline


Registered: 03/15/13
Posts: 1568
Loc: southern mo
So it will start most the time. But once in a great while like. 1 in 20 starts maybe it'll go click. It may only click once or it may be 5 times in a row then it'll fire right up. I sat and kept starting it over and over with the lights on and with the lights on when it did it the lights stayed on.
The connections are all good battery has good voltage about 12.5
So I'm leaning to the starter but want to be sure before I replace it. What do you guys think?
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#3132593 - 09/22/13 03:58 PM Re: Random no crank on 95 ram 5.9 [Re: ram_man]
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Registered: 07/14/10
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CPS.

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#3132596 - 09/22/13 04:04 PM Re: Random no crank on 95 ram 5.9 [Re: ram_man]
ram_man Offline


Registered: 03/15/13
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Could that cause it to click when it doesnt start? The starter is what I believe is makes that click sound when it doesnt start.
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#3132607 - 09/22/13 04:12 PM Re: Random no crank on 95 ram 5.9 [Re: ram_man]
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Does it click repeatedly or just once? If it clicks once like something is engaging and then nothing, Id bet a sticking something inside the starter.

If it clicks repeatedly, seems to me that means the starter doesnt have enough juice from the battery...

Inlaws had an issue where the alternator couldnt keep up in the hot weather in their accord, so the battery would draw. Then occasionally the starter wouldnt work, though everything looked and seemed to check out OK. It was only after a full load test was done that you could see what happened... Because otherwise all stats seemed OK.

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#3132608 - 09/22/13 04:12 PM Re: Random no crank on 95 ram 5.9 [Re: ram_man]
HardbodyLoyalist Offline


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Loc: Lower Alabama
The click is probably coming from the starter relay.
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#3132615 - 09/22/13 04:15 PM Re: Random no crank on 95 ram 5.9 [Re: JHZR2]
ram_man Offline


Registered: 03/15/13
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Loc: southern mo
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Does it click repeatedly or just once? If it clicks once like something is engaging and then nothing, Id bet a sticking something inside the starter.

If it clicks repeatedly, seems to me that means the starter doesnt have enough juice from the battery...

Inlaws had an issue where the alternator couldnt keep up in the hot weather in their accord, so the battery would draw. Then occasionally the starter wouldnt work, though everything looked and seemed to check out OK. It was only after a full load test was done that you could see what happened... Because otherwise all stats seemed OK.


it only clicks once.
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#3132623 - 09/22/13 04:20 PM Re: Random no crank on 95 ram 5.9 [Re: ram_man]
Falken Offline


Registered: 07/30/12
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Crank Position Sensor maybe.
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#3132634 - 09/22/13 04:29 PM Re: Random no crank on 95 ram 5.9 [Re: Falken]
Ken42 Offline


Registered: 07/16/03
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Loc: Palouse WA
Originally Posted By: Falken
Crank Position Sensor maybe.


A CPS will cause a no start but not prevent the engine from turning over.

That is why they are so hard to diagnoise
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#3132639 - 09/22/13 04:33 PM Re: Random no crank on 95 ram 5.9 [Re: ram_man]
oldhp Offline


Registered: 06/28/12
Posts: 782
Loc: Southern Illinois
Sounds like starter is carbon tracking, or brushes are going bad.
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#3132670 - 09/22/13 05:00 PM Re: Random no crank on 95 ram 5.9 [Re: ram_man]
yonyon Offline


Registered: 03/06/12
Posts: 3492
Loc: NJ, USA
Originally Posted By: ram_man

The connections are all good battery has good voltage about 12.5
So I'm leaning to the starter but want to be sure before I replace it. What do you guys think?


If the connections are all good you need to load test the battery. If you don't have a load tester (toaster will work just fine) just use the starter and the very same voltmeter that told you you have 12.5V at the battery.

If the battery is good you get to replace the starter. If the new starter doesn't help you'll know that you were wrong about the connections being good.

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#3132674 - 09/22/13 05:05 PM Re: Random no crank on 95 ram 5.9 [Re: yonyon]
ram_man Offline


Registered: 03/15/13
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Loc: southern mo
Originally Posted By: yonyon
Originally Posted By: ram_man

The connections are all good battery has good voltage about 12.5
So I'm leaning to the starter but want to be sure before I replace it. What do you guys think?


If the connections are all good you need to load test the battery. If you don't have a load tester (toaster will work just fine) just use the starter and the very same voltmeter that told you you have 12.5V at the battery.

If the battery is good you get to replace the starter. If the new starter doesn't help you'll know that you were wrong about the connections being good.


so how do you do a load test? You lost me at toaster lol
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#3132676 - 09/22/13 05:08 PM Re: Random no crank on 95 ram 5.9 [Re: ram_man]
Miller88 Offline


Registered: 04/09/08
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Loc: Onondaga County
Starter solenoid ... Although it seems to be more common on Fords.
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#3132707 - 09/22/13 05:37 PM Re: Random no crank on 95 ram 5.9 [Re: 84zmyfavorite]
SLCraig Offline


Registered: 12/21/08
Posts: 5274
Loc: London, ON, Canada
Originally Posted By: 84zmyfavorite
CPS.


Nope.
The CPS does not have the ability to not let the starter turn over. The starter is your problem, OR despite seeing good connections, there is a connection fault. The only 2 possibilities.
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#3132717 - 09/22/13 05:42 PM Re: Random no crank on 95 ram 5.9 [Re: ram_man]
ram_man Offline


Registered: 03/15/13
Posts: 1568
Loc: southern mo
Could it be the battery by any slim chance
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#3132719 - 09/22/13 05:44 PM Re: Random no crank on 95 ram 5.9 [Re: ram_man]
yonyon Offline


Registered: 03/06/12
Posts: 3492
Loc: NJ, USA
Originally Posted By: ram_man

so how do you do a load test? You lost me at toaster lol


A toaster is a thing like this. It's an inexpensive battery load tester that gets hot and makes smoke from burning off all the dust inside. They're not expensive so it's possible that someone you know has one. Failing that, read the voltage at the battery while holding the key in the crank position.

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