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#3127237 - 09/17/13 06:58 AM Is there a snake oil that'll really remove carbon?
j_mac Offline


Registered: 12/30/08
Posts: 398
Loc: wv
Is there really a snake oil I can pour into the gas tank that will clean carbon deposits from the combustion chamber and piston crown? Or do I have to get into some kind of heavy back to back (expensive) Techron regimen to get it done?
I don't like the "nuclear option" like some of the Seafoam videos I've seen. Seems like a good way to plug the catalytic converter.
Heck, If I could temporarily remove the converter with no ill effects like the old days, then I would "go nuclear" on it with a simple water treatment. I used to do it all the time with dramatic (good) results in old Hondas and Mustangs. Just a massive dose of tap water into the throttle body while revving the engine to 3000 RPM would do the trick. About 2-4 liters from an old coke bottle within just a few minutes. Steam and soot pouring out the back. But the car I'm wanting to fix (stop it from pinging) is only 2 years old and under warranty. Its a 2012 Hyundai Accent.
I just want to pour something into the tank that will dissolve/burn/break away the carbon buildup in the combustion space.
Does such a snake oil exist?
And before you say it, the dealer will look at me real stupid, try to make the problem out to be my fault, and then have a minion mechanic "go through the motions" and then tell me that "Its normal for the car to make a 'death rattling' noise."
I need help figuring out this one guys.
HELP!


Edited by j_mac (09/17/13 07:02 AM)

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#3127242 - 09/17/13 07:13 AM Re: Is there a snake oil that'll really remove carbon? [Re: j_mac]
rfeir Offline


Registered: 07/13/11
Posts: 154
Loc: NY
Just use a quality name brand fuel and an SN rated motor oil.
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#3127254 - 09/17/13 07:27 AM Re: Is there a snake oil that'll really remove carbon? [Re: j_mac]
Phishin Offline


Registered: 05/01/12
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Loc: Indiana
It's not that expensive, but I've had good results with Gumout Regane High Mileage. It's about $5/bottle at my Walmart. It not only fixes pings, but it's so good at removing carbon, that it helps keep my plugs from fouling in my 1990 K1500.

I'd buy two or three bottles. It's only $10-$15.

If you just buy 2 bottles, put them in at the same time. Fill your tank with gas. Drive normal. Short trips are fine (even preferred). Letting the Regane wet the combustion area, and sit for awhile, and restart is great. That's why I say short trips are preferred. Drive until you reach a half tank of fuel. Refill your tank. Drive until you reach another half tank, refill with fuel. Drive until empty.

It's always worked well for me.

My theory is with this method is you drive a half tank at 2X concentration, and then a half tank at 1X concentration, and then a full tank at 0.5X concentration.

If you buy a third bottle.....I add the third bottle the before I refill the first half tank....so you basically run a full tank of fuel for 2X, than a half at 1X, and then a full tank at 0.5X.
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#3127270 - 09/17/13 07:51 AM Re: Is there a snake oil that'll really remove carbon? [Re: j_mac]
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Registered: 07/12/11
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Have you tried an Italian tuneup? Some time with your foot on the floor can do wonders for carbon removal.
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#3127273 - 09/17/13 07:58 AM Re: Is there a snake oil that'll really remove carbon? [Re: j_mac]
danthaman1980 Offline


Registered: 03/12/10
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I have a friend that swears by RxP for decarbonizing combustion chambers. Personally I think it -might- be snake oil, but it might be worth a shot. I've had good luck alternating Regane and Techron on back-to-back tanks.
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#3127275 - 09/17/13 08:00 AM Re: Is there a snake oil that'll really remove carbon? [Re: Brent_G]
Miller88 Offline


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Originally Posted By: Brent_G
Have you tried an Italian tuneup? Some time with your foot on the floor can do wonders for carbon removal.


Proven to be effective and really fun!
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#3127289 - 09/17/13 08:21 AM Re: Is there a snake oil that'll really remove carbon? [Re: j_mac]
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Water.
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#3127290 - 09/17/13 08:22 AM Re: Is there a snake oil that'll really remove carbon? [Re: j_mac]
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Registered: 01/17/03
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99 Durango with a 360. Always pinged on regular fuel in higher temperatures or with A/C on. I started adding MMO to the gas two years ago. Took a couple of months but it hasn't pinged once since.
I'm crediting the MMO cleaning the carbon off.
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#3127296 - 09/17/13 08:27 AM Re: Is there a snake oil that'll really remove carbon? [Re: ARCOgraphite]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
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Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Water.


+1 It works like a champ, via a vacuum line. Just use hot water, and care not to hydro-lock the engine.
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#3127303 - 09/17/13 08:31 AM Re: Is there a snake oil that'll really remove carbon? [Re: ARCOgraphite]
Andy636 Offline


Registered: 12/30/10
Posts: 417
Loc: Romania
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Water.

+1

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#3127322 - 09/17/13 08:51 AM Re: Is there a snake oil that'll really remove carbon? [Re: j_mac]
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Registered: 04/13/13
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Just use Techron in the gas tank, its not that expensive.
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#3127332 - 09/17/13 09:00 AM Re: Is there a snake oil that'll really remove carbon? [Re: j_mac]
Donald Offline


Registered: 03/21/04
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Loc: Upstate NY
Techron or other PEA based cleaners are designed to remove carbon deposits inside the cylinder. Dealers do use Techron, I would not consider it a snake oil. Will it be an instant fix, probably not.

How do you know you have carbon deposits. Inspection camera?
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#3127351 - 09/17/13 09:15 AM Re: Is there a snake oil that'll really remove carbon? [Re: j_mac]
AVB Offline


Registered: 05/20/12
Posts: 789
Loc: Georgia
I don't know about Hyundai, but GM, Chrysler and I think Ford all have a aerosol combustion chamber cleaner. If the dealer has something similar they should do a treatment under warranty. There could even be updated programming for it.

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#3127422 - 09/17/13 10:33 AM Re: Is there a snake oil that'll really remove carbon? [Re: j_mac]
SteveSRT8 Offline


Registered: 10/10/08
Posts: 14464
Loc: Sunny Florida
Our fleet trucks used to regularly develop 'carbon knock'. Sounds a lot like piston slap, but a little louder and doesn't go away quickly from a cold start.

Kreen in the fuel cured it in minutes, period. Great product for carbon, IMO.
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#3129246 - 09/19/13 06:22 AM Re: Is there a snake oil that'll really remove carbon? [Re: demarpaint]
TechnoLoGs Offline


Registered: 04/03/13
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Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Water.


+1 It works like a champ, via a vacuum line. Just use hot water, and care not to hydro-lock the engine.


Also make sure it is hot engine, yes?
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