Recent Topics
Happy Birthday dave1251
by Garak
10/02/14 03:22 AM
Secret Service screw up at White House 2011
by Apollo14
10/02/14 02:26 AM
Mixing more than two types of oil
by Zako2
10/02/14 01:55 AM
2010 Jeep Commander
by HWEaton
10/01/14 10:00 PM
General Altimax Arctics
by HWEaton
10/01/14 09:40 PM
New Nitto Terra Grappler G2
by HWEaton
10/01/14 09:33 PM
What is it with...
by Pop_Rivit
10/01/14 09:26 PM
How important are filtering efficiency specs?
by Noey
10/01/14 09:15 PM
WM: Tuff-Stuff cleaner $3/can (nt)
by sleddriver
10/01/14 08:15 PM
Napa Gold Or Wix Filters?
by crazyoildude
10/01/14 07:55 PM
2013 Mazda 3 SkyActiv, M1 AFE 0w-20, 12,832 miles
by The Critic
10/01/14 07:50 PM
How To Professionally Detail A Vehicle
by Warstud
10/01/14 07:49 PM
Newest Members
rmp, PAssatGuy, mcn1970, KCChemist, bbuice
51461 Registered Users
Who's Online
18 registered (Clevy, Falcon_LS, 01_celica_gt, 3800Series, Apollo14, 2 invisible), 592 Guests and 148 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
51461 Members
64 Forums
220103 Topics
3475878 Posts

Max Online: 2862 @ 07/07/14 03:10 PM
Donate to BITOG

Topic Options
#3127770 - 09/17/13 04:34 PM 13 Kia Sorento V6 QSGB 5w20 5500 miles
Deamos Offline


Registered: 03/09/10
Posts: 87
Loc: New Jersey
I did this UOA largely to satisfy my curiosity. My commute is going to be changing from ~15 miles round trip to ~60 miles round trip so running out to the owner's manual guidance of 7500 miles is going to start becoming desirable. Wanted to see if QSGB would be up to the challenge in my engine. Answer appears to be yes, which is nice since my plan was to run this fill out to at least 7000 miles anyway.

Admittedly this oil probably had it pretty easy since 3k miles of this OCI was done via road trip, so lots of easy highway miles. Also looks like things are breaking in as expected.

I also wanted to do at least one UOA on QSGB as there doesn't seem to be a ton of information on it around here, so here's adding to the collective info this forum brings to the web. smile

Blackstone had it erroneously labeled as 5w30 instead of 5w20 so they flagged the viscosity, though I'm expecting that clarification will mean all is well. I'm betting they had a hard time reading my chicken scratch.

Anyway, aluminum, iron, copper dropped, and silicon dropped. I'll probably do another UOA once my next OCI is up just to see how things are going, but that shouldn't be until late Spring '14. Figure I'll stick with QSGB for at least one more OCI and see where things are at.

Otherwise no surprises, checking on PQIA showed me that none of the additive numbers are unexpected, though they tested 5w30 and not 5w20, the ranges are similar enough.

Code:
OIL	                QSGB 5w20   Nextgen 5w20
MILES IN USE	        5.5k        5k
MILES	                13695       8195
SAMPLE TAKEN	        09/07/13    06/23/13
MAKE UP ADDED	        0 qts       0 qts

Aluminum		6           11
Chromium		0           0
Iron			8           13
Copper			10          20
Lead			1           0
Tin		        0           0
Molybendum		97          185
Nickel			0           0
Manganese		1           2
Silver			1           2
Titanium		0           0
Potassium		2           1
Boron			52          4
Silicon			19          45
Sodium			37          0
Calcium                 1938        2251
Magnesium		12          23
Phosphorus		659         735
Zinc			713         859
Barium			0           1

SUS Visc @ 210F	        50.6        53.7
cSt @ 100C		7.46        8.38
Flashpoint F	        435         385
Fuel %			<0.5        <0.5
Antifreeze %	        0.0         0.0
Water %			0.0         0.0
Insolubles %	        0.2         0.4
TBN		        2.0         2.0
_________________________
2013 Kia Sorento EX V6
Kendall GT-1 5w20 Synth Blend / Firestone filter

Top
#3127829 - 09/17/13 05:47 PM Re: 13 Kia Sorento V6 QSGB 5w20 5500 miles [Re: Deamos]
WTJackalope Offline


Registered: 09/26/05
Posts: 138
Loc: Odessa, TX
Looks good

Top
#3127917 - 09/17/13 07:09 PM Re: 13 Kia Sorento V6 QSGB 5w20 5500 miles [Re: Deamos]
crazyoildude Offline


Registered: 07/23/08
Posts: 5359
Loc: new jersey
Is this engine the 3.5 v6 ??
If so is it noisy at start up?
Both mine are.

Top
#3127954 - 09/17/13 07:30 PM Re: 13 Kia Sorento V6 QSGB 5w20 5500 miles [Re: crazyoildude]
Deamos Offline


Registered: 03/09/10
Posts: 87
Loc: New Jersey
Originally Posted By: crazyoildude
Is this engine the 3.5 v6 ??
If so is it noisy at start up?
Both mine are.


Yup, the 3.5 v6 and yup for the first 15-30 seconds at startup its definitely noisy.

Once the engine warms a bit and idle settles down it becomes nice and smooth. Were I to go with something other than QSGB it'd be to try to eliminate some of that noise at start up but as it doesn't last long.. meh.
_________________________
2013 Kia Sorento EX V6
Kendall GT-1 5w20 Synth Blend / Firestone filter

Top
#3127961 - 09/17/13 07:37 PM Re: 13 Kia Sorento V6 QSGB 5w20 5500 miles [Re: Deamos]
steve20 Offline


Registered: 06/19/07
Posts: 3069
Loc: NJ
in my experience either QSGB or QSUD have been the best at reducing start up noise (reference = K24 Honda)
_________________________
Love my 427 Chevy

Top
#3128076 - 09/17/13 09:11 PM Re: 13 Kia Sorento V6 QSGB 5w20 5500 miles [Re: Deamos]
KCJeep Offline


Registered: 06/30/11
Posts: 4576
Loc: Mahzurrah!
Looks good! Same engine as our Sedona. Your wear numbers are better than mine were on a recent UOA but we short trip ours to near death.

Ours is not particularly noisy at start up but I've heard that comment repeatedly. Since we've had ours, we've used QSGB, Edge Titanium and Ulta. The Edge was the quietest so far.

Thanks for posting! I too get fed up with the lack of oil for the masses UOA's on here.
_________________________
2004 Jeep GC WJ 4.0 @ 122k Pennzoil HM 10w30 w/MoS2
Napa Silver 31515
KIA Sedona 39k, Chevy Lumina 173k, Chrysler Sebring 171k, Ford Ranger 177k!

Top
#3128173 - 09/17/13 11:15 PM Re: 13 Kia Sorento V6 QSGB 5w20 5500 miles [Re: Deamos]
901Memphis Offline


Registered: 08/14/10
Posts: 5671
Loc: Northern Kentucky
Nice to see wear numbers so low on a fresh engine.
_________________________
1999 Ford Taurus 145k (Vulcan v6) - M1 High Mileage 5w30 | Fram Ultra XG 3600
2002 Buick Century 102k - PU 5w30 / Fram Ultra XG 3980 / Filter mag

Top
#3128230 - 09/18/13 05:05 AM Re: 13 Kia Sorento V6 QSGB 5w20 5500 miles [Re: Deamos]
dnewton3 Offline



Registered: 05/14/07
Posts: 5593
Loc: Indianapolis, IN
Break-in is subsiding. Engine in fine shape. Lube did a fine job.

Can easily run this combination out to 7.5k miles. If you plan to extend past that, consider using both TBN and TAN. If 7.5k is going to be your hard limit (in a nod towards OEM warranty, which is not a wrong thing to do) then don't bother with either.


Edited by dnewton3 (09/18/13 05:05 AM)
_________________________
Conventionals vs. Synthetics isn't about which is "better"; it's about which lasts longer, while assuring safe operation, in relation to cost. Any product can be over or under utilized. The same applies to filters.
Make an informed decision; first consider your operating conditions, next determine your maintenance plan, and then pick your lube and filter. Don't do it the other way around ...

Top
#3128251 - 09/18/13 06:02 AM Re: 13 Kia Sorento V6 QSGB 5w20 5500 miles [Re: dnewton3]
Deamos Offline


Registered: 03/09/10
Posts: 87
Loc: New Jersey
Originally Posted By: dnewton3
Break-in is subsiding. Engine in fine shape. Lube did a fine job.

Can easily run this combination out to 7.5k miles. If you plan to extend past that, consider using both TBN and TAN. If 7.5k is going to be your hard limit (in a nod towards OEM warranty, which is not a wrong thing to do) then don't bother with either.


For now, due to warranty is up 7.5k is my hard limit, good advice on the TBN/TAN, I might get one more with TBN just as a marker to see where QSGB is at 7.5k (at the end of my next OCI to satisfy curiosity) but otherwise any further checkups will be without it.
_________________________
2013 Kia Sorento EX V6
Kendall GT-1 5w20 Synth Blend / Firestone filter

Top
#3128254 - 09/18/13 06:08 AM Re: 13 Kia Sorento V6 QSGB 5w20 5500 miles [Re: KCJeep]
Deamos Offline


Registered: 03/09/10
Posts: 87
Loc: New Jersey
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Looks good! Same engine as our Sedona. Your wear numbers are better than mine were on a recent UOA but we short trip ours to near death.

Ours is not particularly noisy at start up but I've heard that comment repeatedly. Since we've had ours, we've used QSGB, Edge Titanium and Ulta. The Edge was the quietest so far.

Thanks for posting! I too get fed up with the lack of oil for the masses UOA's on here.


Wear numbers were probably so good because, as I said, 3k miles were via road trip, even with times of WOT the vast majority of those miles were easy cruising at 65-75mph.

If it had been 5.5k of 15 mile and shorter round trips I wonder if wear would have been as good.

No matter, my commute will be changing and if anything should get easier on the engine.

Anyway there will be at least one more (probably many more) QSGB posts from me.
_________________________
2013 Kia Sorento EX V6
Kendall GT-1 5w20 Synth Blend / Firestone filter

Top
#3128281 - 09/18/13 06:28 AM Re: 13 Kia Sorento V6 QSGB 5w20 5500 miles [Re: Deamos]
bigt61 Offline


Registered: 02/12/13
Posts: 1152
Loc: Virginia
Very nice - some of these modern engines appear to be very easy on oil. Thanks for posting.
_________________________
92 Suburban 2500 7.4L 57k M1_5w30 4yr OCI
99 Olds Aurora 4.0L 91K M1_5w30 4yr OCI
94 Bonneville 3.8L 152k VML 5w30 2yr OCI
70 Camaro 5.7L 59k

Top