Recent Topics
9 year old kid kills gun instructor with auto Uzi
by L_Sludger
08/27/14 09:38 AM
Shop in Chicago burbs?
by lugNutz
08/27/14 09:21 AM
5w50 synthetic?
by 52pu
08/27/14 07:43 AM
Sheet Metal NIBBLER - I Recommend
by larryinnewyork
08/27/14 07:01 AM
Young Pilot has passenger try to take over.
by Shannow
08/27/14 05:36 AM
C-Clip axles and disc brakes
by wirelessF
08/27/14 03:54 AM
Calibration of Canon -fenske viscometers in -51 oC
by Yahya
08/27/14 03:05 AM
New lower valance (garbage find)
by Realtech214
08/27/14 02:49 AM
8/27-9/30 O'Reilly Sales Ad
by tenderloin
08/27/14 02:00 AM
monroe sensa trac vs rancho rs5000
by FLORIDA
08/27/14 01:44 AM
Opti-Coat has been discontinued for consumers
by The Critic
08/27/14 01:42 AM
8/26-9/22 AutoZone Sales Ad
by tenderloin
08/27/14 01:40 AM
Newest Members
rayzn1123, EricWalls, mikejanczak, 1972, HondaSpider
51111 Registered Users
Who's Online
99 registered (440Magnum, 05LGTLtd, 19jacobob93, 97tbird, 29662, 7 invisible), 1771 Guests and 342 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
51111 Members
64 Forums
218351 Topics
3442676 Posts

Max Online: 2862 @ 07/07/14 03:10 PM
Donate to BITOG

Topic Options
#3113512 - 09/03/13 12:32 PM Is all rotella diesel oil?
2000NWXJ Offline


Registered: 08/25/13
Posts: 38
Loc: Oregon
Planning on running either rotella or valvoline 10w30 conventional in my jeep 4.0. Is rotella all diesel oil or is there a special formula for gas vehicles. I know rotella has great uoa's on this engine but I have read that diesel oils can have too much detergent for gas engines.
_________________________
2000 Jeep Cherokee Classic (XJ) 4.0 I-6
Delo 400 XLE Synblend SAE 10w30
Purolator PureONE

Top
#3113516 - 09/03/13 12:38 PM Re: Is all rotella diesel oil? [Re: 2000NWXJ]
jeepman3071 Offline


Registered: 04/15/10
Posts: 1658
Loc: Storrs, Connecticut
Rotella is suitable for use in both diesel and gasoline engines. Use it with confidence. thumbsup
_________________________
2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4.0L (146k) - PYB 10w40, Wix 51085, Magnefine trans filter

Top
#3113520 - 09/03/13 12:40 PM Re: Is all rotella diesel oil? [Re: 2000NWXJ]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
Posts: 11143
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
I don't believe there is any gasoline-specific Rotella. All I've ever seen are dual rated HDEOs, and there may be some older style two-stroke diesel only versions. There is nothing wrong with running a CJ-4/SM or CJ-4/SN HDEO in a gasoline engine, within certain limitations, of course. It's best if the viscosity is close and the specifications are the same or similar. I'd run 10w-30 Rotella in my old F-150 without hesitation. If I had a new Camry or Prius, I might think over it a bit longer, at least while under warranty, since they likely call for a 0w-20 in SN/GF-5, and the HDEO will certainly not meet the ILSAC specification, much less the viscosity called for.
_________________________
Plain, simple Garak.

2008 Infiniti G37 coupe - Mobil Delvac 1 ESP 5w-40, Hastings LF113
1984 F-150 4.9L six - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515

Top
#3113527 - 09/03/13 12:45 PM Re: Is all rotella diesel oil? [Re: 2000NWXJ]
cancov Offline


Registered: 06/13/11
Posts: 732
Loc: North Carolina
All the Rotella starbursts I've looked at have been API SM certified. So assuming your Jeep 4.0 will accept API SM (verify with your manual), and I'm positive it will, then Rotella oils are suitable for your Jeep. All the technical specifications aside, I have no problem using "diesel" oils in my gasoline vehicles. I'm even mixing some Rotella T6, 5W40, in my Corolla with Mobil Clean 5000, 5W20, at about a 1:3 ratio to add some "detergency" and the slightly thicker mixture satisfied my distaste with piston slap at start-up.
_________________________
'11 Toyota Corolla, Corolla MPG
'86 Mazda B-2000

Top
#3113558 - 09/03/13 01:15 PM Re: Is all rotella diesel oil? [Re: cancov]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
Posts: 11143
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Originally Posted By: cancov
All the Rotella starbursts I've looked at have been API SM certified.

I bet you'll find an API Donut on there, and not a Starburst. wink The Starburst indicates ILSAC compliance, and I haven't seen such a Rotella product - Formula Shell, yes, not Rotella, though.
_________________________
Plain, simple Garak.

2008 Infiniti G37 coupe - Mobil Delvac 1 ESP 5w-40, Hastings LF113
1984 F-150 4.9L six - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515

Top
#3113569 - 09/03/13 01:27 PM Re: Is all rotella diesel oil? [Re: Garak]
901Memphis Offline


Registered: 08/14/10
Posts: 5231
Loc: Northern Kentucky
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: cancov
All the Rotella starbursts I've looked at have been API SM certified.

I bet you'll find an API Donut on there, and not a Starburst. wink The Starburst indicates ILSAC compliance, and I haven't seen such a Rotella product - Formula Shell, yes, not Rotella, though.



Its the API SM Donut on the back of them.


7 Posts down in this thread.


http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2420723
_________________________
1999 Ford Taurus 145k (Vulcan v6) - Mobil 1 High Mileage 5w30 | FL400S
2002 Buick Century 102k - PU 5w30 / Fram Ultra XG 3980 / Filter mag

Top
#3113592 - 09/03/13 01:55 PM Re: Is all rotella diesel oil? [Re: 2000NWXJ]
dparm Offline


Registered: 04/19/10
Posts: 12469
Loc: Chicago, IL
The diesel thing was done for marketing purposes. It is clearly okay for gasoline engines (most diesel oils are).
_________________________
2011.5 BMW M3 saloon ZCP
der stärkste buchstabe der welt
Castrol Edge Professional TWS 10w60 + Mahle OX 254D3

Top
#3113696 - 09/03/13 04:09 PM Re: Is all rotella diesel oil? [Re: 2000NWXJ]
bluesubie Offline


Registered: 08/04/03
Posts: 1837
Loc: NJ
Originally Posted By: 2000NWXJ
... but I have read that diesel oils can have too much detergent for gas engines.

I've read this as well and have no idea where this comes from. Not true. People that assume, I suppose.

-Dennis
_________________________
'04 Subaru Forester 2.5XT
Motul X-cess 5W-40 | OEM Honeywell filter

Top
#3113731 - 09/03/13 04:35 PM Re: Is all rotella diesel oil? [Re: 2000NWXJ]
fdcg27 Offline


Registered: 09/25/09
Posts: 9158
Loc: OH
Rotella is a Shell brand of diesel oil.
Many of these oils are dual rated, that is they carry both SAE Cx and Sx ratings, but some grades are strictly C rated.
If you want to use T5, it is dual rated and suitable for API SM applications.
This is a thicker oil than VWB.
The Rotella may have higher detergency but I can't see that causing any problems.
I'd consider it an upgrade over VWB and I'd run it without a second thought.
_________________________
12 Accord LX 22K HGMO 0W-20
09 Forester 64K PU 5W-30
02 Accord 127K G-Oil 5W-30
01 Focus ZX3 98K Synpower 10W-30
95 BMW 318iC 146K Defy 10W-40

Top
#3114184 - 09/04/13 12:22 AM Re: Is all rotella diesel oil? [Re: 2000NWXJ]
BlueOval Offline


Registered: 08/26/12
Posts: 45
Loc: Alberta, Canada
I am running Petro Canada Duron-E synthetic 5w40 in my 08 Ranger FX4, and if i could marry an oil I would. Smooth as silk. As I was pouring it in I started to second guess myself but the second I turned it over I am in love. The oil is dual rated, Rotella from what i am told is a great oil use without worry...as long as your warranty is up that is lol.
_________________________
08 Ford Ranger FX4--PC Syn 5w30 MC filter
13 RVR--Petro Canada 5w20 synthetic Hastings Filter

Top
#3114328 - 09/04/13 07:36 AM Re: Is all rotella diesel oil? [Re: 901Memphis]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
Posts: 11143
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
Its the API SM Donut on the back of them.

Yep, API SM/CJ-4, no Starburst, of course, because there's no ILSAC compliance, identical to the API certification mark on the jugs of Mobil Delvac 1 ESP I have in my garage (and in my sump).
_________________________
Plain, simple Garak.

2008 Infiniti G37 coupe - Mobil Delvac 1 ESP 5w-40, Hastings LF113
1984 F-150 4.9L six - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515

Top
#3116171 - 09/05/13 08:30 PM Re: Is all rotella diesel oil? [Re: 2000NWXJ]
artificialist Offline


Registered: 09/23/07
Posts: 6714
Loc: Florida
The only Rotella I saw that wasn't approved for gasoline use was T1 SAE30. You would be better off with a multi viscosity oil, so you wouldn't want this oil anyway.
_________________________
2010 Lancer Ralliart Sportback

Top