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#3101581 - 08/21/13 02:13 PM 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel
amr40509 Offline


Registered: 10/11/10
Posts: 30
Loc: ky
I just ordered a new '14 Grand Cherokee with the VM 3.0L diesel.

The manual has oil recommendations in two places.

1) We recommend you use ACEA C3 5W-30 engine oil meeting Chrysler material
standard MS-11106 or Penzoil Ultra Euro L full sythetic 5W-30 motor oil

2) Only use SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Low Ash engine oil such
as MOPAR, Pennzoil® or Shell Helix® which is recommended
for all operating temperatures. This engine oil
improves low temperature starting and vehicle fuel
economy.

Are these really the only oils I can use? I'm having kind of a hard time finding a source of any of them (Except buying MOPAR at the dealer, I assume I'll be able to do that, but haven't called them yet).

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#3101593 - 08/21/13 02:23 PM Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel [Re: amr40509]
Clevy Offline


Registered: 11/11/10
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Loc: Saskatoon canada
You need an oil that meets the Chrysler spec. Look like a low saps oil is what they want.
You can use any oil that meets the ms-11106 I assume.
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#3101595 - 08/21/13 02:24 PM Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel [Re: amr40509]
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Registered: 04/19/10
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Loc: Chicago, IL
So it needs to be ACEA C3 5w30 AND MS-11106? Is that the exact wording?
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#3101597 - 08/21/13 02:27 PM Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel [Re: amr40509]
Danno Offline


Registered: 10/07/12
Posts: 844
Loc: Northern Ontario, Canada
That's the gotcha with the newer diesels. Very specific oil requirements.

I run a large fleet of 3.0L Sprinter diesels and I believe only M1 M (OEM standard) and Valvoline make a 229.51 spec oil. I just go with M1 "M" 229.51 rated oil and don't worry about it.

M1 appears to make that oil specced for MS-11106.

http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil_1_ESP_Formula_5W-30.aspx

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#3101598 - 08/21/13 02:27 PM Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel [Re: dparm]
amr40509 Offline


Registered: 10/11/10
Posts: 30
Loc: ky
That was an exact cut/paste from the "Grand Cherokee OWNER’S MANUAL 2014 DIESEL SUPPLEMENT" that I'm pretty sure just became available for the first time today.

The SUVs just went on sale for the US market Aug 9th, none have been delivered yet.


Edited by amr40509 (08/21/13 02:28 PM)

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#3101625 - 08/21/13 02:51 PM Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel [Re: amr40509]
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Registered: 04/19/10
Posts: 12570
Loc: Chicago, IL
Ultra Euro L is good. Dealer will probably stock it...ask what they charge per case.
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#3101732 - 08/21/13 04:50 PM Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel [Re: amr40509]
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Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 21560
Loc: NY
Nice Ride!!!!!!! When you get it report back, and drive it in good health.
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#3101759 - 08/21/13 05:16 PM Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel [Re: amr40509]
Donald Offline


Registered: 03/21/04
Posts: 13667
Loc: Upstate NY
Was was the price if you don't mind me asking and expected MPG?
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#3102007 - 08/21/13 09:42 PM Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel [Re: Donald]
Billy_D Offline


Registered: 06/23/08
Posts: 968
Loc: midwest
EPA city/hwy mileage estimates: 22/30 mpg(2WD) 21/28 mpg(4WD)

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#3102204 - 08/22/13 07:33 AM Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel [Re: Donald]
amr40509 Offline


Registered: 10/11/10
Posts: 30
Loc: ky
Originally Posted By: Donald
Was was the price if you don't mind me asking and expected MPG?


I don't mind at all:

I went with a Limited 4x4, Off Road II, Lux II, Nav, Block heater. MSRP $49,280. I made the deal back in March for as soon as ordering opened (which just happened) and am paying $44,892 before Tax/Title/License.

EPA city/hwy mileage estimates: 22/30 mpg(2WD) 21/28 mpg(4WD) as stated above. No real life numbers for US spec trucks yet...as they aren't out. But they've had them in Australia for awhile and are reporting a couple of MPG better in real life - but that may not translate.


Edited by amr40509 (08/22/13 07:38 AM)

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#3102214 - 08/22/13 07:42 AM Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel [Re: dparm]
amr40509 Offline


Registered: 10/11/10
Posts: 30
Loc: ky
Originally Posted By: dparm
Ultra Euro L is good. Dealer will probably stock it...ask what they charge per case.


I just ordered a couple of cases of it off of the internet, just to have some on hand.

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#3102437 - 08/22/13 11:03 AM Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel [Re: amr40509]
KCJeep Offline


Registered: 06/30/11
Posts: 4696
Loc: Mahzurrah!
Cool ride but OUCH!

I am afraid I may not be able to afford another Jeep. frown Solution for now is to drive the wheels off the one I have.
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#3102448 - 08/22/13 11:12 AM Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel [Re: amr40509]
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Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 21560
Loc: NY
What was the up charge over the 3.6L Pentastar engine? I thought I read about $4,000, I'm wondering what the actual cost was to you? Thanks!
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#3102580 - 08/22/13 01:42 PM Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel [Re: amr40509]
Danno Offline


Registered: 10/07/12
Posts: 844
Loc: Northern Ontario, Canada
Really nice writeup on the VM 3.0L diesel. Drool worthy castings and engine pics. I am officially jealous amr40509.

http://www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/1208dp_banks_vm_motori_630t_v6_diesel_engine/

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#3102734 - 08/22/13 03:57 PM Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel [Re: Danno]
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Registered: 10/10/08
Posts: 15293
Loc: Sunny Florida
Originally Posted By: Danno
Really nice writeup on the VM 3.0L diesel. Drool worthy castings and engine pics. I am officially jealous amr40509.

http://www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/1208dp_banks_vm_motori_630t_v6_diesel_engine/



Thanks for your post! Really enjoyed that write up.

Back in the early 80's I bought an Impala with a Gale Banks twin turbo setup on it at an auction. What a guy, he makes GOOD stuff.
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