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#3102873 - 08/22/13 06:27 PM Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel [Re: amr40509]
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If that engine is used in GM as well as Chrysler products the price should come down according to the article. That would be great, the engine makes some nice power at low rpms and the mpg is great. What's not to like.
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#3106072 - 08/26/13 11:19 AM Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel [Re: demarpaint]
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Registered: 10/11/10
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Loc: ky
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
What was the up charge over the 3.6L Pentastar engine? I thought I read about $4,000, I'm wondering what the actual cost was to you? Thanks!


Base Engine: 3.6L V6 VVT ENGINE + 8-SPD AUTO 845RE TRANS (Standard)

3.0L V6 TURBO DIESEL ENGINE + 8-SPD AUTO 8HP70 TRANS [MSRP $4,500 / INV. $ 4,005]

5.7L V8 HEMI VVT ENGINE + 8-SPD AUTO 8HP70 TRANS [MSRP $2,695 / INV. $ 2,399]


Edited by amr40509 (08/26/13 11:19 AM)

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#3106079 - 08/26/13 11:36 AM Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel [Re: amr40509]
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Thanks, hopefully they sell a lot of them, and the price of the diesel engine comes down a bit. I think you've got a winner there!
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#3122481 - 09/12/13 10:24 AM Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel [Re: amr40509]
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That looks like a heck of a solid engine... Wow. Very nice.


Edited by Boss302fan (09/12/13 10:24 AM)

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#3127598 - 09/17/13 01:57 PM Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel [Re: amr40509]
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Castrol SLX available at BMW dealerships used to have this spec IIRC.
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#3127980 - 09/17/13 08:04 PM Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel [Re: demarpaint]
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Originally Posted By: demarpaint
If that engine is used in GM as well as Chrysler products the price should come down according to the article. That would be great, the engine makes some nice power at low rpms and the mpg is great. What's not to like.


I hope the price comes down as well. I have never been able to pull the trigger on a diesel because of the up charges and extra coin for fuel.
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#3154223 - 10/13/13 10:54 AM Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel [Re: amr40509]
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I'm sure ID parts will soon have the oil and maintenance kits for it. They seem to be a good source for diesels.
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#3166242 - 10/24/13 01:17 PM Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel [Re: 3311]
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Registered: 10/04/12
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Loc: Acworth, GA
Originally Posted By: 3311
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
If that engine is used in GM as well as Chrysler products the price should come down according to the article. That would be great, the engine makes some nice power at low rpms and the mpg is great. What's not to like.


I hope the price comes down as well. I have never been able to pull the trigger on a diesel because of the up charges and extra coin for fuel.



The fuel costs are a wash because of the extra MPG. The extra charge for the motor is what takes a lot of driving to make back.

That being said I have 311,000 miles on the 7.3 van and it still runs like new.


Edited by jayg (10/24/13 01:18 PM)
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#3192957 - 11/20/13 02:20 PM Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel [Re: amr40509]
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Registered: 10/11/10
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Just wanted to check back in now that I actually have the Jeep. I picked it up on the 10 days ago and have about 900 miles on it now, including one pretty good road trip out of town.

I'm not normally one to gush over an engine...but yeah...this thing is amazing! I'm getting low 20's around town. I drove 500 miles on the interstate at 75-85mph (except one burst up to 118 to see what speed she was limited to) with a FULL truck of big guys/coolers for a football game trip and got 27MPG. I think that 30+ should be expected under better conditions and more ginger driving. And power...The torque is ALWAYS there...and yes...it will spin the tires on dry pavement from a stop even though its full-time 4x4.

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#3194221 - 11/21/13 08:34 PM Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel [Re: jayg]
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Registered: 09/23/07
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Loc: Florida
Originally Posted By: jayg
Originally Posted By: 3311
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
If that engine is used in GM as well as Chrysler products the price should come down according to the article. That would be great, the engine makes some nice power at low rpms and the mpg is great. What's not to like.


I hope the price comes down as well. I have never been able to pull the trigger on a diesel because of the up charges and extra coin for fuel.



The fuel costs are a wash because of the extra MPG. The extra charge for the motor is what takes a lot of driving to make back.

That being said I have 311,000 miles on the 7.3 van and it still runs like new.

In addition, repair costs are a factor. If you need repairs for a diesel, they typically cost more than for gasoline engines.

However, only time will tell which gasoline and diesel engines have higher lifetime repair costs.
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#3194365 - 11/21/13 10:34 PM Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel [Re: amr40509]
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That 3.0 engine right there would make me seriously consider buying a diesel truck. What a beautiful piece of engineering.
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#3194471 - 11/22/13 05:23 AM Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel [Re: amr40509]
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Agreed. It gives you some hope for diesels in the future if they keep refining them.

Still too new to tell, but I love that they are going outside their own engineering department and looking at innovative designs from other companies...
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#3194535 - 11/22/13 07:37 AM Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel [Re: SteveSRT8]
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Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Agreed. It gives you some hope for diesels in the future if they keep refining them.

Still too new to tell, but I love that they are going outside their own engineering department and looking at innovative designs from other companies...


+1 If they end up going DI with the Pentastar I'll be looking real hard at the Diesel option if they offer it in the Wrangler next year.
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#3194856 - 11/22/13 01:36 PM Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel [Re: demarpaint]
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Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Agreed. It gives you some hope for diesels in the future if they keep refining them.

Still too new to tell, but I love that they are going outside their own engineering department and looking at innovative designs from other companies...


+1 If they end up going DI with the Pentastar I'll be looking real hard at the Diesel option if they offer it in the Wrangler next year.


You have to wonder if Chrysler is waiting to see what others do first, as the Pstar was their go-to powerplant for their future line up and yet does not have DI!
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#3194905 - 11/22/13 02:20 PM Re: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee - VM 3.0L Turbo Diesel [Re: SteveSRT8]
demarpaint Offline


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Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Agreed. It gives you some hope for diesels in the future if they keep refining them.

Still too new to tell, but I love that they are going outside their own engineering department and looking at innovative designs from other companies...


+1 If they end up going DI with the Pentastar I'll be looking real hard at the Diesel option if they offer it in the Wrangler next year.


You have to wonder if Chrysler is waiting to see what others do first, as the Pstar was their go-to powerplant for their future line up and yet does not have DI!


They have/had plans for DI in calendar year 2014-2016 according to Allpar. From what I read they were waiting for others to iron out their issues. I learned to pass on the first year of any new technology. Just because Chrysler decided to wait doesn't mean the first year DI Pstar will be problem free. Honestly I'd love to see them scrap the idea totally. hide
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