Originally Posted By: jrustles
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Originally Posted By: R80RS
Originally Posted By: bustednutz
Originally Posted By: R80RS
Can't speak to the CX-5 in particular, but I have a trusted mechanic friend who rates Mazda products pretty low in the hierarchy of Japanese cars. He was persuasive enough to talk me out of a Mazda 3 I was considering.
Find another trusted mechanic friend. On our 4th Mazda product and loving it. In 7 years and 4 vehicles of ownership we have NEVER had to go back to the dealer for a single problem or warranty repair.
Sorry if the opinion of an impartial mechanic who has run a prosperous repair shop for 20+ years somehow upset your sensitivities. He’s one of the most fair minded guys I know when it comes to preferences for vehicles, and he forms his opinions based on automotive experience that exceeds mine. I’ll respect his judgment over that of some fanboy any day. Besides, I’d think that with all those Mazdas of yours that never, ever, ever need service you wouldn’t be so insecure in your purchasing decisions that you feel you have to call into question who I, a total stranger to you, consider a friend.
FWIW I’m glad you are happy with all your Mazdas. And, if in the end, Pablo decides to get one, more power to him, I hope he’s happy with it and it works out for him.
bustednutz's experience is not invalid, just because you "trust" your mechanic. Sharing his experience wasn't meant to upset you via cognitive dissonance either. But since we're all fanboys making stuff up, how about some data.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/...-reports-list/1
http://www.mazda-news.eu/2012/01/16/mazd...med-once-again/
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J.D. Powers in Germany
• Mazda3: Highest-scoring model of all 117 models on survey
• Mazda3: 1st in the compact class
• Mazda2: 1st in B-car class
J.D. Powers in the UK
• MX-5: 1st in the Sports Car category, ahead of luxury models cars like Audi TT, the Mercedes-Benz CLK and SLK
Auto Bild 100,000 Endurance Test
• Mazda3: Finishes test without breakdown, earns top score
• Rankings: Mazda has three of top four models (Mazda3, 5, 6) from 80 models
Latest TÜV Report Germany
(from over 7 million inspections per age-class, 215 models in total)
• 3 years old: Mazda2 (2nd), Mazda3 (8th)
• 5 years old: Mazda2 (6th), Mazda3 (10th)
• 7 years old: Mazda2 (6th), Mazda3 (7th)
They must be confused or ignorant, out in Germany right?
Must be just recently, right?
2005 according to a Reliability Survey published by whatcar.co.uk, Mazda ranked 2nd.
There is no need for anyone to dog the company to make themself feel better about their purchases, bias, recommendations or to deny the fact that they could have made a more informed purchasing decision. If you want to bash them, do it objectively. Too many times, people align themselves with the most popular, conspicuous, accepted brands and parties, where it is safe that your opinions will not differ from the majority. When something one has had little regard for, undeniably proves it's worth, at least equal and in many cases better than the popular choice they've aligned themselves to, it becomes very difficult for many to accept this. This is called cognitive dissonance, and makes people react in all kinds of funny ways. People just get mad and start to hate.
Mazda might be new to you, and some of these mechanics with far too much regard for their own watercooler opinions, but that says nothing about the company, it just means you didn't know. No shame in accepting it. The kind of nonsense that some of these mechanics like to spew, there is a name for it- "vivid- something" I forget.
Wow, touchy much? Let’s start at the beginning.
First of all, my mechanic isn’t bogus, nor is his opinion. He’s competent in his craft and his opinion is just that, an opinion. I never represented it as anything else. I really don’t understand your need to disparage someone you don’t know just because his opinion on a car manufacturer diverges from your own. In the interest of injecting some clarity here re-read my earlier posts. I never said he badmouthed Mazda, just that there are other Japanese automakers he holds in higher regard. Why is that such a controversial opinion to you? Even worldwide sales figures for Mazda vs. Honda vs. Toyota vs. etc. would seem to show the general public holds a similar opinion.
I never said bustedbutz’s experience is invalid. Show me where I called his ownership experience into question. I called him a fanboy because he clearly is, but I never said he was making anything up. To claim that is to claim I was calling him a liar, which I never did. I don’t know him so I have no reason to believe he was dishonest in his post. The reason I replied to him as I did was his snarky and uncalled for demand that I “find another trusted mechanic friend”. That’s a laughable demand, and pretty close to being out of place on what should be a friendly board.
Thanks for the links, the information is very enlightening. Glad to know that a European website with the words “Mazda News” in the URL has something nice to say about Mazdas. I learned a lot, for example that Mazda’s European subsidiary has a first rate marketing department.
I didn’t “dog” anything and I haven’t bashed anything or anybody in any of my posts. I don’t own a Mazda or any of the cars mentioned here, and I really don’t care if people like them or not. If Mazdas float your boat go for it. If Pablo decides the CX-5 is what he wants and the car makes him happy then I’m sure it will be a good vehicle for him and I hope he has a great ownership experience.
