Xado additive
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I know you were asking people with big brains, but anyway...
I'm thinking, if it's not Made in Australia, it can't possibly be the best.
I read more and more about micro-ceramic lubricants. I'm not sure in how far these are really different from ceramic additves (boron nitride) that have been used for a long time.
I'm thinking, if it's not Made in Australia, it can't possibly be the best.
I read more and more about micro-ceramic lubricants. I'm not sure in how far these are really different from ceramic additves (boron nitride) that have been used for a long time.
Here's a post about a similar use:
http://maintenanceforums.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/319103451/m/1341090032/r/2591061742
He said the silicates in the oil were high because of a similar product. I am trying to see what the side effects will be with Xado. I will look into boron nitride.
http://maintenanceforums.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/319103451/m/1341090032/r/2591061742
He said the silicates in the oil were high because of a similar product. I am trying to see what the side effects will be with Xado. I will look into boron nitride.
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I am currently using CeraTec by LiquiMoly in my oil. It is a micro-ceramic additive -- looks like pale raspberry yogurt.
I think that you may be referring to Auto-Rx, as it's a lanolin ester.quote:
Originally posted by moribundman:
I'm thinking, if it's not Made in Australia, it can't possibly be the best.
Lanolin comes from sheep wool, and is definitely part of Australian cultcha, but I think Frank comes from somewhere else.
Any positives or negatives (besides the color) to report on this stuff?? Have you done a UOA on any oil which contained this additive?
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Unfortunately, the valve stem seals are rapidly getting worse and I will not do an UOA until I have taken care of the issue.
The CeraTec seemed fairly thick, but I didn't notice a loss of power or decreased fuel economy. The oil is RL 5W-30.
The CeraTec seemed fairly thick, but I didn't notice a loss of power or decreased fuel economy. The oil is RL 5W-30.
problem I see with a "ceramic" type additive is high ash forming and spark plug fouling as well as ring sticking not to mention filter and lifter plugging over time, OK for a cutting oil but not IMHO a good PCMO additive.
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I trust LM and their products. Many of their fluids and additives are OEM parts and recommended by a variety of carmakers. CeraTec was TÜV-tested and showed the promised benefits. Maybe it's all a fraud, could be -- I simply don't know. Many good companies lose their way over time.
I have, in the past, found LM to be quite responsive to inquiries.
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I have, in the past, found LM to be quite responsive to inquiries.
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Just finished treatment with Xado in my '94 Ford 7.3 IDI, no effects on power, mileage, engine noise or oil pressure. No UOA so far, but I'm really tempted to do one. (Posting back with results if so.) Expensive stuff, will not use it again.
How did you measure the before and after reults? I am thinking of using it in my Honda and performing compression, oil pressure, idle mileage, and emmission tests.
They recommend three tubes spaced out over many miles like Auto-RX. It also said to add to a warm engine and idle for some time. How did you add it?
Sounds a lot like the Ceramlub I just used on my brakes. Supposed to be a %30 solid content and probably similar technology to Ceratec. I like solid lubes just fine for slow movement/high heat type uses, but I'm not convinced about their uses in high speed applications.
Xado sounds a lot like Microlon, only that product is resin based and is supposedly a "one time" use product for the life of the vehicle
Xado sounded interesting until I read this in the FAQ:
That's just not going to happen. And for their Repairing grease:
What does that mean?? %80 of the part can be gone and this stuff will fix it??
Zado is going into my snake oil list along with Microlon, but a least they don't claim it to be a lifetime product.
The only thing is that they seem well established in Europe. (The company is from the Ukraine so it makes sense they would have a greater presence there). Perhaps there is a language barrier. The technology makes sense, but I will still want to try it on a few cars at a garage a buddy of mine owns. He can perform all the tests to determine some real results. I would also want to do an oil analysis and post it here. I want to make sure it doesn't improve performance in one area but cause problems in another.
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Perhaps there is a language barrier.
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LoneStarCRX :
- Oil pressure measured with aftermarked gauge, measured both hot and cold, no increase/decrease
- noise level...well I've been driving this noisy b--c for many years and got her nagging under my skin, so any changes would affect me physically
- Mileage: I always keep track of mileage, reading and resetting my trip counter every tankful and calculate. Every time.
- Power: Just the feeling.
Decided to do an UOA soon, will be back with results.
- Oil pressure measured with aftermarked gauge, measured both hot and cold, no increase/decrease
- noise level...well I've been driving this noisy b--c for many years and got her nagging under my skin, so any changes would affect me physically
- Mileage: I always keep track of mileage, reading and resetting my trip counter every tankful and calculate. Every time.
- Power: Just the feeling.
Decided to do an UOA soon, will be back with results.
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