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#3350680 - 04/22/14 11:14 PM Re: Biking on an interstate highway (on the shoulder) [Re: zzyzzx]
UncleLee Offline


Registered: 04/16/14
Posts: 58
Loc: texas
You don't drive your car on the rail road tracks..so why would you ride a bicycle in the road. The tax payers in my area have paid for over 100 miles of bicycle trails, and people still ride on the road. absolute nuisance if you ask me. Not to mention very unsafe. Not only for the cyclist but for on coming traffic as fustrated drivers move into the on coming lane to get around them.

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#3350689 - 04/22/14 11:44 PM Re: Biking on an interstate highway (on the shoulder) [Re: UncleLee]
andrewg Offline


Registered: 10/05/08
Posts: 3620
Loc: Covington, Wa.
Originally Posted By: UncleLee
You don't drive your car on the rail road tracks..so why would you ride a bicycle in the road. The tax payers in my area have paid for over 100 miles of bicycle trails, and people still ride on the road. absolute nuisance if you ask me. Not to mention very unsafe. Not only for the cyclist but for on coming traffic as fustrated drivers move into the on coming lane to get around them.

Contact your legislators....organize....and change the law. Until then, they are legally abiding by the law and as a result, you must share the road with them.
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#3350862 - 04/23/14 08:00 AM Re: Biking on an interstate highway (on the shoulder) [Re: zzyzzx]
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Registered: 02/15/03
Posts: 4834
Loc: Jupiter, Florida
I've bicycled on divided highways, with dedicated bike lanes, that were just like, but not in fact, interstates. During heavy traffic, when cars/trucks go by at 75-80 MPH, the draft is amazing and cyclist speeds pick up nicely.

I did not find it scary or otherwise dangerous. The car-to-cyclist distance is increased in such configurations and I'd say it's far safer than a busy 2 lane without a dedicated bike lane.
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#3351157 - 04/23/14 02:23 PM Re: Biking on an interstate highway (on the shoulder) [Re: UncleLee]
eljefino Offline


Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 26495
Loc: ME
Originally Posted By: UncleLee
You don't drive your car on the rail road tracks..so why would you ride a bicycle in the road. The tax payers in my area have paid for over 100 miles of bicycle trails, and people still ride on the road. absolute nuisance if you ask me. Not to mention very unsafe. Not only for the cyclist but for on coming traffic as fustrated drivers move into the on coming lane to get around them.


Actually, stuff like pedestrians, horses, farm equipment, and bicyclists, have an absolute right to the roads, while motor vehicles have a privilege. This is why the latter have to yield to the former.

A motorist has to turn a steering wheel and change speed via controls. Boo hoo. A cyclist has to exercise. And he's saving the rest of us some petroleum to use later.

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#3351556 - 04/23/14 10:38 PM Re: Biking on an interstate highway (on the shoulder) [Re: UncleLee]
Happy Birthday javacontour Offline


Registered: 06/26/03
Posts: 8156
Loc: Illinois
Perhaps, but there are far more automotive annoyances on the road than bicyclists.

If your biggest problem on the roads is bicycles, I may want to move where you live. Because around here, 1000:1 it's the cars that cause me the most headaches regardless if I'm in my car or on a bike.

I suspect it's not the vehicle they choose, but the fact that a certain percentage of folks are knuckleheads.

It's just sheer numbers. There are far more motorists than bicyclists. Neither is better than the other at following the rules and laws.

Originally Posted By: UncleLee
You don't drive your car on the rail road tracks..so why would you ride a bicycle in the road. The tax payers in my area have paid for over 100 miles of bicycle trails, and people still ride on the road. absolute nuisance if you ask me. Not to mention very unsafe. Not only for the cyclist but for on coming traffic as fustrated drivers move into the on coming lane to get around them.
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#3352073 - 04/24/14 03:52 PM Re: Biking on an interstate highway (on the shoulder) [Re: UncleLee]
JOD Offline


Registered: 09/10/09
Posts: 3145
Loc: PNW/WA
Originally Posted By: UncleLee
You don't drive your car on the rail road tracks..so why would you ride a bicycle in the road. The tax payers in my area have paid for over 100 miles of bicycle trails, and people still ride on the road. absolute nuisance if you ask me. Not to mention very unsafe. Not only for the cyclist but for on coming traffic as fustrated drivers move into the on coming lane to get around them.


Your thoughts seem pretty common in Texas, one of many reasons I'll never go there...

I have news for you, most cyclists pay a lot in taxes as well (I know I certainly do), and roads are for cyclists as well as drivers. Of course, I realize that you're more important, so the cyclists are just a nuisance to you...

Most multi-use paths are not suitable for bikes traveling at a reasonable rate of speed, which is why I avoid them unless there are no other options.

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#3354768 - 04/27/14 03:47 PM Re: Biking on an interstate highway (on the shoulder) [Re: eljefino]
dailydriver Offline


Registered: 03/14/06
Posts: 7651
Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
Originally Posted By: eljefino
Originally Posted By: UncleLee
You don't drive your car on the rail road tracks..so why would you ride a bicycle in the road. The tax payers in my area have paid for over 100 miles of bicycle trails, and people still ride on the road. absolute nuisance if you ask me. Not to mention very unsafe. Not only for the cyclist but for on coming traffic as frustrated drivers move into the on coming lane to get around them.


Actually, stuff like pedestrians, horses, farm equipment, and bicyclists, have an absolute right to the roads, while motor vehicles have a privilege. This is why the latter have to yield to the former.

A motorist has to turn a steering wheel and change speed via controls. Boo hoo. A cyclist has to exercise. And he's saving the rest of us some petroleum to use later.



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The WORST driving offenders in this area are the pickup driving, hard core rednecks who would shoot to kill IF they could get away with it, and the snooty, uppity, yuppiedrones on their phones, in their big buck luxomobiles who think they OWN the road, and feel you are just in their way and costing them their precious, 'N.Y. minute' time. mad
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#3621162 - 02/03/15 06:02 AM Re: Biking on an interstate highway (on the shoulder) [Re: zzyzzx]
Michael_P Offline


Registered: 08/20/07
Posts: 1272
Loc: Ohio
This reminds me of people who go to the oil additives section just to bash on oil additives. I'm not a big fan of oil additives, so I usually stay away from that section. I just don't get it.
I ride on US23 all the time before the bike paths start. There is a 10ft wide shoulder and I bother no one, even if it is a wide load carrying trusses diagonally. Yet, there are those who feel compelled to mess with people just because they do not like it. It is that reason I have a front and rear facing HD camera with remote data storage and CCW. Though if someone tries to start something, I do my best to ignore them.
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#3621377 - 02/03/15 10:51 AM Re: Biking on an interstate highway (on the shoulder) [Re: zzyzzx]
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Registered: 12/15/14
Posts: 265
Loc: California
In my opinion, bikes and motor vehicles just don't mix but that's especially true in urban areas where it's extremely congested to begin with and cities ( usually looking to get state or Fed transportation dollars ) make it worse by widening bike lanes or developing dedicated bike lanes that eliminate a car lane for a stretch in certain areas of the city. In San Francisco, they have an event called "Critical Mass" on the last Friday of the month where ( at 5PM rush hour ) about a thousand mostly activist bicyclists make their presence known...sometimes with confrontative results on both sides. It's hard to feel sympathy for bikers of many stripes if they're four across on a two lane road and refuse to move and are blocking traffic. By the same token, I've seen both the yuppie a**wipe in his BMW and the lift kit pickup truck idiot f*** taunting the bikers who are otherwise not in anyone's way.

Even if there's a 10 foot shoulder, you still have that cultural, real or perceived annoyance backdrop which already exists and, quite frankly, I wouldn't want to take the chance. A woman near me in a wide bike lane was hit and killed by a drunk driver going 80 mph. While I'm sorry people can't use a multi-use bike lane "at speed"...in my area there's been several accidents in areas where construction is going on and the lycra wearing bikers go through it at full speed. Sometimes it's less about the "ability to" and more about the brain synapse that actually fires.

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#3621751 - 02/03/15 06:31 PM Re: Biking on an interstate highway (on the shoulder) [Re: zzyzzx]
dailydriver Offline


Registered: 03/14/06
Posts: 7651
Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
^^^Yes, 'common sense' must be practiced by ALL, but, where there is a decent shoulder, and no construction dangers, that racing cyclist has EVERY right in the world to practice his given sport/endeavor ("right to happiness"), as long as he (or she) is not breaking any posted speed limit laws (which I will admit to doing in some areas when I was in much better {racing} condition/fitness).

Just because it is considered a; minor, unaccepted, or "non" sport in THIS country, does NOT make it illegal, or wrong to practice/train for racing cycling.
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#3623850 - 02/05/15 05:11 PM Re: Biking on an interstate highway (on the shoulder) [Re: dailydriver]
Thermo1223 Offline


Registered: 04/18/05
Posts: 1971
Loc: Easton, PA
Originally Posted By: dailydriver
I used to take long training rides on Route 78 LONG BEFORE the federal highway dept. banned bicycles on interstates (very early '70s).
It generally had very wide shoulders, albeit full of trash, broken beer bottles, and 'road gators', but the only REAL problem was the yahoos playing Darrell Waltrip getting off the exit ramps. mad

I once rode from my town (Union, N.J.) all the way out to Phillipsburg, N.J. (and back), and even tried crossing the bridge into Easton, but they would not let me through the tolls. frown


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#3639676 - 02/19/15 04:43 PM Re: Biking on an interstate highway (on the shoulder) [Re: JHZR2]
Brons2 Offline


Registered: 09/16/03
Posts: 2651
Loc: Austin, Texas
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Bikes aren't allowed on interstates.


Not true. I've ridden legally on several interstates. It's only illegal if it's specifically posted for no cycling.

It's not ideal, in fact pretty jarring when the trucks pass. But in some cases there's just no alternate.

Examples:
I-10 on Southern Tier Transcontinental in New Mexico and far West Texas. http://www.adventurecycling.org/routes-and-maps/adventure-cycling-route-network/southern-tier/
I-25 between Raton, NM and Trinidad, CO
I-80 on Transamerica Trail between Wy130 and Rawlins, WY http://www.adventurecycling.org/routes-and-maps/adventure-cycling-route-network/transamerica-trail/
I-84 (up until recently) between Old US30 and the Bridge of the Gods (a bike trail was recently completed to eliminate having to ride on the freeway this section)
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#3700002 - 04/15/15 10:24 AM Re: Biking on an interstate highway (on the shoulder) [Re: zzyzzx]
Vikas Offline


Registered: 07/22/05
Posts: 9321
Loc: NorthEast
Assuming you are biking for recreation, why do you care to cut off miles from your ride? It is not as if you are using the bike because you have no car to go from point A to point B.

Heck, I won't even pull over to the side of the highway in an emergency if I could hobble up to next exit. I don't care if I destroy the tire or rim in the process. My life is worth more than the parts on the car.

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#3700204 - 04/15/15 02:56 PM Re: Biking on an interstate highway (on the shoulder) [Re: eljefino]
CT8 Offline


Registered: 10/09/14
Posts: 2173
Loc: California
Originally Posted By: eljefino
Originally Posted By: UncleLee
You don't drive your car on the rail road tracks..so why would you ride a bicycle in the road. The tax payers in my area have paid for over 100 miles of bicycle trails, and people still ride on the road. absolute nuisance if you ask me. Not to mention very unsafe. Not only for the cyclist but for on coming traffic as fustrated drivers move into the on coming lane to get around them.


Actually, stuff like pedestrians, horses, farm equipment, and bicyclists, have an absolute right to the roads, while motor vehicles have a privilege. This is why the latter have to yield to the former.

A motorist has to turn a steering wheel and change speed via controls. Boo hoo. A cyclist has to exercise. And he's saving the rest of us some petroleum to use later.
I love bicycle riding but really who will win the fight the car or the person with the right of way riding a bicycle ? Claiming the right of way in these types of circumstances is a fools claim. Ride at our own risk

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