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#3021933 - 06/03/13 06:45 PM Re: Ultra and Royal Purple [Re: kajunman]
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I've had great luck with royal purple. 5W-30 for car and truck. Try for deals when I can find them. right now I'm good till 2014. just started using the filters too. have stretched out my OCI's too.
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#3022782 - 06/04/13 01:37 PM Re: Ultra and Royal Purple [Re: kajunman]
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Assuming that break-in occurred during the last 10 or so model years, neither meets the specification for Ford's manufacturer's warranty, so I'd say they were equally bad.

Well, Ford's own oil is a 5W-20 synthetic blend. I am concerned about shearing with this oil, which would leave me with a 5W-10 durlng the oil change cycle. I am going to change to a Penzoil Ultra 5W-30. If I can get my local Penzoil distributor to get me some Penzoil Ultra Euro 5W-40 that's what I going to try.

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#3022993 - 06/04/13 05:57 PM Re: Ultra and Royal Purple [Re: kajunman]
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Originally Posted By: kajunman
Assuming that break-in occurred during the last 10 or so model years, neither meets the specification for Ford's manufacturer's warranty, so I'd say they were equally bad.

Well, Ford's own oil is a 5W-20 synthetic blend. I am concerned about shearing with this oil, which would leave me with a 5W-10 durlng the oil change cycle. I am going to change to a Penzoil Ultra 5W-30. If I can get my local Penzoil distributor to get me some Penzoil Ultra Euro 5W-40 that's what I going to try.


Your post is a bit confusing to me? Is the underlined part something you are posting or is it a quote?

The 1st thing is RP API SN 5W20 meets Ford WSS-M2C945-A and carries the API starburst per the requirements for the 2013 Focus owner's manaul( page 307 online PDF from Ford site ). Not sure what year your Focus is so not sure on what oil weight and exact Ford rating it requires but Ford has used 5W20 for a while now. I went with the newest Focus info however just to have the most up to date info. RP API SN 5W30 also meets Ford WSS-M2C945-A FWIW.

RP API SN PDS - http://royalpurpleconsumer.com/wp-content/uploads/PS_API_MotorOIl.pdf

Pennzoil Ultra only shows it meets Ford WSS-M2C945-A in 5W30( different spec for 5W20 ).

If this is a vehicle still under warranty do not go with 5W40. Run the spec'd weight. Actually, I wouldn't run a 40 weight in any Focus as they will most likel be spec'd for 5W20 or possibly 5W30. 40 weight is too thick.


Edited by NHHEMI (06/04/13 05:59 PM)
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#3023005 - 06/04/13 06:17 PM Re: Ultra and Royal Purple [Re: kajunman]
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Originally Posted By: kajunman
Well, Ford's own oil is a 5W-20 synthetic blend. I am concerned about shearing with this oil, which would leave me with a 5W-10 durlng the oil change cycle. I am going to change to a Penzoil Ultra 5W-30. If I can get my local Penzoil distributor to get me some Penzoil Ultra Euro 5W-40 that's what I going to try.



duh


So much RP discussion in this thread, that no one has had time to give the OP good advice!

Stick to what the owners manual recommends during your warranty period. MotorCraft 5w20 is an excellent oil. Any 5w20 will serve you well (dino, syn, blend) and your engine will outlast the vehicle.

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#3023025 - 06/04/13 06:38 PM Re: Ultra and Royal Purple [Re: surfstar]
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Originally Posted By: surfstar
Originally Posted By: kajunman
Well, Ford's own oil is a 5W-20 synthetic blend. I am concerned about shearing with this oil, which would leave me with a 5W-10 durlng the oil change cycle. I am going to change to a Penzoil Ultra 5W-30. If I can get my local Penzoil distributor to get me some Penzoil Ultra Euro 5W-40 that's what I going to try.



duh


So much RP discussion in this thread, that no one has had time to give the OP good advice!

Stick to what the owners manual recommends during your warranty period. MotorCraft 5w20 is an excellent oil. Any 5w20 will serve you well (dino, syn, blend) and your engine will outlast the vehicle.


I pointed out that RP API SN meets all current Ford requirements.
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#3023057 - 06/04/13 07:22 PM Re: Ultra and Royal Purple [Re: NHHEMI]
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Registered: 10/16/10
Posts: 945
Loc: Illinois
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: kajunman
Assuming that break-in occurred during the last 10 or so model years, neither meets the specification for Ford's manufacturer's warranty, so I'd say they were equally bad.

Well, Ford's own oil is a 5W-20 synthetic blend. I am concerned about shearing with this oil, which would leave me with a 5W-10 durlng the oil change cycle. I am going to change to a Penzoil Ultra 5W-30. If I can get my local Penzoil distributor to get me some Penzoil Ultra Euro 5W-40 that's what I going to try.


Your post is a bit confusing to me? Is the underlined part something you are posting or is it a quote?

The 1st thing is RP API SN 5W20 meets Ford WSS-M2C945-A and carries the API starburst per the requirements for the 2013 Focus owner's manaul( page 307 online PDF from Ford site ). Not sure what year your Focus is so not sure on what oil weight and exact Ford rating it requires but Ford has used 5W20 for a while now. I went with the newest Focus info however just to have the most up to date info. RP API SN 5W30 also meets Ford WSS-M2C945-A FWIW.

RP API SN PDS - http://royalpurpleconsumer.com/wp-content/uploads/PS_API_MotorOIl.pdf

Pennzoil Ultra only shows it meets Ford WSS-M2C945-A in 5W30( different spec for 5W20 ).

If this is a vehicle still under warranty do not go with 5W40. Run the spec'd weight. Actually, I wouldn't run a 40 weight in any Focus as they will most likel be spec'd for 5W20 or possibly 5W30. 40 weight is too thick.


Ultra 5w/20 meets WSS-m2c945-a, which is what Ford specifies for almost all of its non-turbo vehicles. Ultra 5w/30 meets WSS-m2c946-a. In other words, Ford requires a 5w/20 oil. Using a 5w/30, 10w/30, 5w/40, etc. risks compromising the OP's warranty.

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#3023396 - 06/05/13 06:22 AM Re: Ultra and Royal Purple [Re: Danh]
NHHEMI Offline


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Originally Posted By: Danh
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: kajunman
Assuming that break-in occurred during the last 10 or so model years, neither meets the specification for Ford's manufacturer's warranty, so I'd say they were equally bad.

Well, Ford's own oil is a 5W-20 synthetic blend. I am concerned about shearing with this oil, which would leave me with a 5W-10 durlng the oil change cycle. I am going to change to a Penzoil Ultra 5W-30. If I can get my local Penzoil distributor to get me some Penzoil Ultra Euro 5W-40 that's what I going to try.


Your post is a bit confusing to me? Is the underlined part something you are posting or is it a quote?

The 1st thing is RP API SN 5W20 meets Ford WSS-M2C945-A and carries the API starburst per the requirements for the 2013 Focus owner's manaul( page 307 online PDF from Ford site ). Not sure what year your Focus is so not sure on what oil weight and exact Ford rating it requires but Ford has used 5W20 for a while now. I went with the newest Focus info however just to have the most up to date info. RP API SN 5W30 also meets Ford WSS-M2C945-A FWIW.

RP API SN PDS - http://royalpurpleconsumer.com/wp-content/uploads/PS_API_MotorOIl.pdf

Pennzoil Ultra only shows it meets Ford WSS-M2C945-A in 5W30( different spec for 5W20 ).

If this is a vehicle still under warranty do not go with 5W40. Run the spec'd weight. Actually, I wouldn't run a 40 weight in any Focus as they will most likel be spec'd for 5W20 or possibly 5W30. 40 weight is too thick.


Ultra 5w/20 meets WSS-m2c945-a, which is what Ford specifies for almost all of its non-turbo vehicles. Ultra 5w/30 meets WSS-m2c946-a. In other words, Ford requires a 5w/20 oil. Using a 5w/30, 10w/30, 5w/40, etc. risks compromising the OP's warranty.


The Ultra website must have an error then. They show 45 for 5W30 and 46 for 5W20.
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#3023426 - 06/05/13 07:21 AM Re: Ultra and Royal Purple [Re: NHHEMI]
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Registered: 10/16/10
Posts: 945
Loc: Illinois
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: Danh
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: kajunman
Assuming that break-in occurred during the last 10 or so model years, neither meets the specification for Ford's manufacturer's warranty, so I'd say they were equally bad.

Well, Ford's own oil is a 5W-20 synthetic blend. I am concerned about shearing with this oil, which would leave me with a 5W-10 durlng the oil change cycle. I am going to change to a Penzoil Ultra 5W-30. If I can get my local Penzoil distributor to get me some Penzoil Ultra Euro 5W-40 that's what I going to try.


Your post is a bit confusing to me? Is the underlined part something you are posting or is it a quote?

The 1st thing is RP API SN 5W20 meets Ford WSS-M2C945-A and carries the API starburst per the requirements for the 2013 Focus owner's manaul( page 307 online PDF from Ford site ). Not sure what year your Focus is so not sure on what oil weight and exact Ford rating it requires but Ford has used 5W20 for a while now. I went with the newest Focus info however just to have the most up to date info. RP API SN 5W30 also meets Ford WSS-M2C945-A FWIW.

RP API SN PDS - http://royalpurpleconsumer.com/wp-content/uploads/PS_API_MotorOIl.pdf

Pennzoil Ultra only shows it meets Ford WSS-M2C945-A in 5W30( different spec for 5W20 ).

If this is a vehicle still under warranty do not go with 5W40. Run the spec'd weight. Actually, I wouldn't run a 40 weight in any Focus as they will most likel be spec'd for 5W20 or possibly 5W30. 40 weight is too thick.


Ultra 5w/20 meets WSS-m2c945-a, which is what Ford specifies for almost all of its non-turbo vehicles. Ultra 5w/30 meets WSS-m2c946-a. In other words, Ford requires a 5w/20 oil. Using a 5w/30, 10w/30, 5w/40, etc. risks compromising the OP's warranty.


The Ultra website must have an error then. They show 45 for 5W30 and 46 for 5W20.


Pennzoil is notoriously bad at keeping its website up-to-date. A better source for all Shell product info is epc.shell.com.

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#3023563 - 06/05/13 10:27 AM Re: Ultra and Royal Purple [Re: Danh]
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Registered: 08/19/10
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Loc: Louisiana
NHHEMI,

Yes it was a quote.

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#3023564 - 06/05/13 10:30 AM Re: Ultra and Royal Purple [Re: kajunman]
kajunman Offline


Registered: 08/19/10
Posts: 27
Loc: Louisiana
What is the danger of Penzoil Ulra 5W-20 shearing to 5W-10?

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#3023609 - 06/05/13 11:41 AM Re: Ultra and Royal Purple [Re: kajunman]
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Registered: 10/16/10
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Loc: Illinois
Originally Posted By: kajunman
What is the danger of Penzoil Ulra 5W-20 shearing to 5W-10?


Take a look a UOAs here. I posted one last December with Ultra 5w/20 in a 2012 Focus. While the OCI was not long, oil shear was virtually non-existent.

Assuming you don't have an ST Focus (which specifies 5w/30), try a run of 5w/20 as Ford recommends and get a used oil analysis to see for yourself.

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#3023635 - 06/05/13 12:16 PM Re: Ultra and Royal Purple [Re: kajunman]
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Loc: Maricopa, AZ
Originally Posted By: kajunman
What is the danger of Penzoil Ulra 5W-20 shearing to 5W-10?


Whomever says that a 5W20 will shear to a 10 grade oil under normal everyday use would say also say there is 5 lights when there are only 4.
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