LC or ARx for maintenance
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I've read here from several people that ARx is great at cleaning and LC is great as a maintenance product. So, if the engine is new or clean, LC should be better for keeping it that way. In fact, if you use LC20 from the start, you may never need ARx.
Auto-Rx is a chemistry that keeps engine clean and in top performance Thats maintenance no matter what oil your using.
Auto-Rx & LC are different type of products that don't duplicate each other.
Auto-Rx & LC are different type of products that don't duplicate each other.
92xj,
I would encourage you to look at a maintenance dose of Auto-Rx if you would like to keep the benefits gained from the Auto-Rx clean and rinse phases.
I ran Auto-Rx for the first time about 25,000 miles ago in my Isuzu Trooper. Once I was done with the rinse phase, I then proceeded to use Lube Control in order to try and keep the performance I had gained with Auto-Rx.
Just recently I decided to run Auto-Rx again. While my vehicle still ran great, it did not have the smoothness nor the fuel economy that it had after I had finished Auto-Rx for the first time.
Right now I am halfway through the rinse phase and the engine smoothness at various rpms that I remember from before is back. While I have not given up on Lube Control, I am now taking a serious look at Mr. Miller's Auto-Rx maintenance plan for my Trooper in light of how it is now performing.
Another option I am considering is cleaning with Auto-Rx every 25,000-30,000 miles even if I continue to use Lube Control in my Trooper.
With that said, I believe you could go with either product and still do well.
Hope this helps,
Bobby
I would encourage you to look at a maintenance dose of Auto-Rx if you would like to keep the benefits gained from the Auto-Rx clean and rinse phases.
I ran Auto-Rx for the first time about 25,000 miles ago in my Isuzu Trooper. Once I was done with the rinse phase, I then proceeded to use Lube Control in order to try and keep the performance I had gained with Auto-Rx.
Just recently I decided to run Auto-Rx again. While my vehicle still ran great, it did not have the smoothness nor the fuel economy that it had after I had finished Auto-Rx for the first time.
Right now I am halfway through the rinse phase and the engine smoothness at various rpms that I remember from before is back. While I have not given up on Lube Control, I am now taking a serious look at Mr. Miller's Auto-Rx maintenance plan for my Trooper in light of how it is now performing.
Another option I am considering is cleaning with Auto-Rx every 25,000-30,000 miles even if I continue to use Lube Control in my Trooper.
With that said, I believe you could go with either product and still do well.
Hope this helps,
Bobby
I'd like to see how it works in my W8 engine. I have 40k miles and have always used quality synthetics. But I'll try anything once.
Only problem is, I just changed plugs and oil, and I use Motul 8100 e-tech which is a little too expensive for such short OCIs w/ AutoRx. So first I would have to switch to an inexpensive VW 502.00 approved oil, say Castrol GTX, leave enough room for 18oz of AutoRx (W8 has 9 quarts of oil), run 1500 miles, then OC w/ Castrol again and drive for 2000 miles. Am I correct?
[ February 19, 2006, 11:43 PM: Message edited by: W8inDE ]
Only problem is, I just changed plugs and oil, and I use Motul 8100 e-tech which is a little too expensive for such short OCIs w/ AutoRx. So first I would have to switch to an inexpensive VW 502.00 approved oil, say Castrol GTX, leave enough room for 18oz of AutoRx (W8 has 9 quarts of oil), run 1500 miles, then OC w/ Castrol again and drive for 2000 miles. Am I correct?
[ February 19, 2006, 11:43 PM: Message edited by: W8inDE ]
Yes, 92xj -- for ARX maintenance dosing, use three ounces in engines prone to sludging, or two ounces otherwise.
Don't mix ARX and LC.
Don't mix ARX and LC.
So for maintenance dose of 3 oz ARX, can I extend it for 5K till the next OC? I understand that the cleaning phase of ARX is only 1.5K. I thought the mechanism of action of ARX is different from LC, so I thought there will be no adverse chemical interaction.
I did two full treatments with ARX for my 112K mile old Hyundai Tiburon. The car felt healthier. I've since put 2-3oz in ONE maintainance dose mixed with Mobil 1 EP 5W-30 + Mobil 1 EP Oil filter. So far so good.
I will make the switch to LC20 at my next oil change (not for another 8000 miles) and continue using MB1 EP products.
Sound like a good idea to you experts? Can I expect to see LC address any issues that ARX did not?
Thanks
Aviv
I will make the switch to LC20 at my next oil change (not for another 8000 miles) and continue using MB1 EP products.
Sound like a good idea to you experts? Can I expect to see LC address any issues that ARX did not?
Thanks
Aviv
Terry Dyson recommends LC for continuous use and Auto-Rx every 25,000-30,000 miles. LC is a bother to add an ounce or two every 1000 miles. Two vehicles in the family fleet get LC and one gets 2 oz. of Auto-Rx each oil change for that reason.
It is no problem to switch from one product to the other at oil change time. Terry recommends that the products are not mixed while in service.
Ken
It is no problem to switch from one product to the other at oil change time. Terry recommends that the products are not mixed while in service.
Ken
I don't know why you guys think adding an oz every 1000 miles is a bother...shouldn't you at sometime during a 1000 miles raise the hood and check your oil level ..and other fluids...even if your car does not burn oil ....I know I check mine ...
"Squat, I check my oil from time to time as well.
It's only a bother if the 1,000 mile mark rolls around when it's 5*F and snowing. But then it just waits till the weather is more "hospitable"
. Actually adding FP to every tank of gas in the winter is more of a "bother". So sometimes it gets skipped. I'm sure that will not cause the world to end or my engine to implode
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Whimsey
Whimsey
Whimsey,
I totally understand and agree with you to a point. In my case, I use Fuel Power with every tank regardless of the weather conditions.
Yes, I can see why it would be a bother, especially in New Jersey at this time of year. However, you still have to fill up your tank, don't you? Since you have to get out in that kind of weather anyway you might as well take the Fuel Power with you, dump it in, and make enduring the cold really worthwhile.
Bobby
I totally understand and agree with you to a point. In my case, I use Fuel Power with every tank regardless of the weather conditions.
Yes, I can see why it would be a bother, especially in New Jersey at this time of year. However, you still have to fill up your tank, don't you? Since you have to get out in that kind of weather anyway you might as well take the Fuel Power with you, dump it in, and make enduring the cold really worthwhile.
Bobby
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