Recent Topics
0W20 in the US but 5W30 outside US for Mazda
by perryg114
02/05/16 08:58 PM
Thoughts on Delo 10w-30 XLE for gas engines?
by Hal9000
02/05/16 08:48 PM
why would someone want to pay with a phone?
by turtlevette
02/05/16 08:16 PM
The connection was reset problem
by Triple_Se7en
02/05/16 08:14 PM
BIG PROBLEM!
by Avery4
02/05/16 08:03 PM
11,000 miles on a BMW
by BigJohn
02/05/16 07:48 PM
Thoughts on 2007 Nissan Sentra 60K for a used car?
by ToyotaNSaturn
02/05/16 07:20 PM
Anyone else have "See Cashier" issues with Shell?
by SLO_Town
02/05/16 07:16 PM
Shear rates in engine components...
by Shannow
02/05/16 06:32 PM
Windows Live Mail Question
by Wingman
02/05/16 06:21 PM
Royal Enfield Himalayan....Giddy Up!
by BigJohn
02/05/16 06:17 PM
clear no tint 1994 dakota windshield?
by bmwjohn
02/05/16 06:14 PM
Newest Members
rsritchey, Ball9320, 06Corolla, AyPapii, JakeTheYankee
56834 Registered Users
Who's Online
93 registered (77GrandPrix, aquariuscsm, bandz7, babyivan, 2015_PSD, 17 invisible), 1330 Guests and 121 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
56834 Members
66 Forums
244290 Topics
3977214 Posts

Max Online: 2862 @ 07/07/14 03:10 PM
Donate to BITOG
Topic Options
#2874257 - 01/17/13 01:52 PM Ford Focus rear brake drum won't come off
tinmanSC Offline


Registered: 09/07/10
Posts: 2220
Loc: Oswego, IL
This is actually the second time on BITOG i've asked for help in removing something related to brakes, this time it's the rear drum on a 2000 Ford Focus SE. It has a 30mm bolt that holds it on, which is part of the bearing, I suppose. I took that off, came off ok, but the drum will only move about 1/4 of an inch. It doesn't seem to have a retractor on the back. I've pounded on this thing forever, and it doesn't want to come off. Any advice on removing stuck rear brake drums?

Also, in this case, there is no little hole on the drum to put a bolt through, and the wheel studs are part of the drum.
_________________________
Cost of Hobby=2L
(Where L=Cost of Lubricant)
95 Lexus SC300 5-spd@200K, 2000 GS300@125K both VML Full Syn+Purolator PSL20195(soon to be Wix)

Top
#2874266 - 01/17/13 02:00 PM Re: Ford Focus rear brake drum won't come off [Re: tinmanSC]
Donald Offline


Registered: 03/21/04
Posts: 16038
Loc: Upstate NY
Does it have a rubber plug on the backing plate you can remove and stick in a thin screwdriver and a brake adjusting tool?

That is the way you would "un-adjust" drum brakes to get the drum off on drum brakes I have worked on.
_________________________
2015 Subaru Forester 2.5 engine/CVT PP & M1
2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4.0 - PP & M1
1999 Dodge Ram 2500 w/Cummins - Rotella T6 & M1


Top
#2874268 - 01/17/13 02:01 PM Re: Ford Focus rear brake drum won't come off [Re: tinmanSC]
driver123 Offline


Registered: 11/25/11
Posts: 96
Loc: cincinnati, ohio
On a Chevrolet you disconnect the E Brake , and the shoes should contract enough to remove the drum, not sure about Ford though.
_________________________
2004 Audi A4 3.0 Cabriolet 0W-30 German Castrol Bosch Distance +
2002 Chevrolet Malibu 3.1 pennzoil Ultra 5w-30 W/ Fram ultra 121800 miles

Top
#2874269 - 01/17/13 02:02 PM Re: Ford Focus rear brake drum won't come off [Re: tinmanSC]
randomhero439 Offline


Registered: 07/21/12
Posts: 1267
Loc: ohio
If you really cant get it off. Try opening the bleeder screw and rotating it, it should eventually come off. Then bleed that brake when your done.
_________________________
08 335i 6-speed MT: M1 0w-40 / Mann filter (~420whp on E85)
03 Accord V6 6-speed MT: M1 0w-20 / Honda filter~250whp


Top
#2874297 - 01/17/13 02:29 PM Re: Ford Focus rear brake drum won't come off [Re: tinmanSC]
DrDusty86 Offline


Registered: 01/04/11
Posts: 1491
Loc: TX
Is it rusted? My zx2 I just take a rubber mallet and wack one size of the drum and it is off.

Top
#2874319 - 01/17/13 02:45 PM Re: Ford Focus rear brake drum won't come off [Re: tinmanSC]
Tegger Online   content


Registered: 03/20/06
Posts: 1900
Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: tinmanSC
This is actually the second time on BITOG i've asked for help in removing something related to brakes, this time it's the rear drum on a 2000 Ford Focus SE. It has a 30mm bolt that holds it on, which is part of the bearing, I suppose. I took that off, came off ok, but the drum will only move about 1/4 of an inch.

Looks like you need a puller. Watch this YouTube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opNA1kOpKdc&noredirect=1
_________________________
2013 Toyota RAV4 - 47,000 miles - Toyota 0W-20, Toyota filter

Top
#2874330 - 01/17/13 02:53 PM Re: Ford Focus rear brake drum won't come off [Re: Donald]
tinmanSC Offline


Registered: 09/07/10
Posts: 2220
Loc: Oswego, IL
Originally Posted By: Donald
Does it have a rubber plug on the backing plate you can remove and stick in a thin screwdriver and a brake adjusting tool?

That is the way you would "un-adjust" drum brakes to get the drum off on drum brakes I have worked on.

The only rubber plug is on the right side, as you are looking at it. This is on the passenger side, so it's toward the front of the car. I'm used to these plugs being on the top or the bottom. Also, none of the instructions I've found online say anything about retracting the shoes by removing the plug and clicking it back. frown
_________________________
Cost of Hobby=2L
(Where L=Cost of Lubricant)
95 Lexus SC300 5-spd@200K, 2000 GS300@125K both VML Full Syn+Purolator PSL20195(soon to be Wix)

Top
#2874333 - 01/17/13 02:54 PM Re: Ford Focus rear brake drum won't come off [Re: driver123]
tinmanSC Offline


Registered: 09/07/10
Posts: 2220
Loc: Oswego, IL
Originally Posted By: driver123
On a Chevrolet you disconnect the E Brake , and the shoes should contract enough to remove the drum, not sure about Ford though.

E brake comes off from the inside, per the info I found online anyway.
_________________________
Cost of Hobby=2L
(Where L=Cost of Lubricant)
95 Lexus SC300 5-spd@200K, 2000 GS300@125K both VML Full Syn+Purolator PSL20195(soon to be Wix)

Top
#2874366 - 01/17/13 03:23 PM Re: Ford Focus rear brake drum won't come off [Re: tinmanSC]
eljefino Offline


Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 28634
Loc: ME
Your shoes are stuck on a ridge inside the drum. The 1/4" you're getting are the shoes moving on their hardware... the springs and "nails". Probably you're going to need to buy a new hardware kit. Find anything "different" on the backing plate, use the other side as a mirror image diagram if you can. Cut the nail heads off and it'll fall apart.

Top
#2874404 - 01/17/13 04:14 PM Re: Ford Focus rear brake drum won't come off [Re: tinmanSC]
OB4x4 Offline


Registered: 01/06/13
Posts: 107
Loc: sc, usa
Make sure you have the E-brake disengaged. I've seen it happen more than once where someone will pound on a drum thats locked in place by the E-brake.
_________________________
00 toyota tacoma 3rz 181,000 mi
m1 5w-30 (5-7k mi oci), mt90, m175w-90.

08 scion xb 2az 70k mi.
m15w-20 (5k mi oci), idemistsu tls-lv

Top
#2874546 - 01/17/13 06:18 PM Re: Ford Focus rear brake drum won't come off [Re: tinmanSC]
KrisZ Offline


Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 5240
Loc: Toronto, Canada
What I did, since I did not have any special tools, was to rotate the drum and using a mallet hit the drum on just one side. Rotate about 90 degrees and hit the side of the drum. That basically started to wiggle the drum little by little. Once the shoes were exposed a bit I pushed on them with a screw driver to compress them as much as possible. It took about 15 minlutes and it did scratch up the shoes, but I was replacing them anyway.
_________________________
2015 Dodge//Grand Caravan-Factory Fill
2006 Mazda 3-135,000 miles

Top
#2875597 - 01/18/13 03:52 PM Re: Ford Focus rear brake drum won't come off [Re: OB4x4]
tinmanSC Offline


Registered: 09/07/10
Posts: 2220
Loc: Oswego, IL
Originally Posted By: OB4x4
Make sure you have the E-brake disengaged. I've seen it happen more than once where someone will pound on a drum thats locked in place by the E-brake.

This turned out to be a fantastic tip! I never set the e-brake, but in making 100% sure it was not set I found an issue with it. I pulled the e-brake (hand brake, by the gear selector) and it would not come up, it stopped after only a very short movement, not even to the first click. Seems there is a problem with it. Thanks for the tip.
_________________________
Cost of Hobby=2L
(Where L=Cost of Lubricant)
95 Lexus SC300 5-spd@200K, 2000 GS300@125K both VML Full Syn+Purolator PSL20195(soon to be Wix)

Top
#2875770 - 01/18/13 06:38 PM Re: Ford Focus rear brake drum won't come off [Re: tinmanSC]
JetStar Offline


Registered: 10/02/08
Posts: 1236
Loc: Flatlands of Indiana
IIRC the factory service manual instructs you to remove the 4 bolts from the hub assy on the backing plate. According to this article, there was a recall of some sort. Pretty high torque required on the drum / bearing nut too 173'#.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_you_remove_the_rear_drum_of_2000_ford_focus
_________________________
My weakness is I love all motorcycles regardless of brand
2015 Road Glide
2007 Yamaha FZ1
1978 Suzuki GS1000 (now 1085)

Top
#2947274 - 03/21/13 11:27 PM Re: Ford Focus rear brake drum won't come off [Re: tinmanSC]
tinmanSC Offline


Registered: 09/07/10
Posts: 2220
Loc: Oswego, IL
Thanks to everyone who posted. It did turn out to be the e-brake. The cable had rusted and was pulling on it, keeping the shoes extended, which was probably why they wore out so quickly. I cut the e-brake cable and they popped right off. Now to replace the cable.
_________________________
Cost of Hobby=2L
(Where L=Cost of Lubricant)
95 Lexus SC300 5-spd@200K, 2000 GS300@125K both VML Full Syn+Purolator PSL20195(soon to be Wix)

Top