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#2927888 - 03/04/13 01:44 PM FUCHS TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 5W-40
OVERKILL Offline


Registered: 04/28/08
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
This oil peaked my interest today.

Spec's:
ACEA A3 / B4
API SN/SM/CF

BMW LONGLIFE-01
MB-APPROVAL 229.5
PORSCHE A40
RENAULT RN0700
RENAULT RN0710
VW 502 00
VW 505 00

These are all formal approvals thumbsup

http://www.fuchs-europe.com/products.html

Anybody have any experience with this oil? They require you e-mail them for a PDS, so that's what I've done.
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#2927896 - 03/04/13 01:47 PM Re: FUCHS TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 5W-40 [Re: OVERKILL]
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Where would you get it? The 135i might like that...

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#2927897 - 03/04/13 01:48 PM Re: FUCHS TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 5W-40 [Re: JHZR2]
OVERKILL Offline


Registered: 04/28/08
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Where would you get it? The 135i might like that...


There's a Canadian distributor not all that far from me. There's a number of them in the US. Seems their industrial lubes are popular here.
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#2927899 - 03/04/13 01:49 PM Re: FUCHS TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 5W-40 [Re: OVERKILL]
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I've been using it in a few different applications over the years. Excellent oil!! thumbsup
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#2927901 - 03/04/13 01:49 PM Re: FUCHS TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 5W-40 [Re: OVERKILL]
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Link to PDS.

If it was cheaper than M1 0w-40, I'd use it. smile

But with M1 0w-40 being $5/qt around here, I don't think that's going to happen.
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#2927906 - 03/04/13 01:52 PM Re: FUCHS TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 5W-40 [Re: OVERKILL]
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Has a higher VI than PU 5w-40....... No mention of NOACK though unfortunately. Nor CCS or MRV.
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#2927917 - 03/04/13 01:58 PM Re: FUCHS TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 5W-40 [Re: OVERKILL]
Quattro Pete Offline


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Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Has a higher VI than PU 5w-40....... No mention of NOACK though unfortunately. Nor CCS or MRV.

Hmm... I didn't realize SOPUS updated the PU 5w-40 PDS as of January of this year. VI is lower than it used to be. On the other hand, it has a nice low NOACK of 6.8%.
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#2927953 - 03/04/13 02:20 PM Re: FUCHS TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 5W-40 [Re: OVERKILL]
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For your information,
Fuchs can make some top quality oils and their 10/40 is very popular with truckers and farmers in Germany. It would be good to see what the VOA was like and Blackstone might do one for free with your next UOA if you ask them, because they like to have a VOA database of all the different oils in current use.
If there are any Fuchs fans around I would like to see a VOA of their diesel 10/40 bulk oil, as I can get it for free, but have no real idea what is in it, as it is a commercial bulk oil.

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#2927957 - 03/04/13 02:22 PM Re: FUCHS TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 5W-40 [Re: OVERKILL]
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Their XTL line is far more appealing, in my opinion.

That oil will work fine but I wouldn't pay more than $7/qt for it.
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#2927975 - 03/04/13 02:36 PM Re: FUCHS TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 5W-40 [Re: dparm]
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: dparm
Their XTL line is far more appealing, in my opinion.

That oil will work fine but I wouldn't pay more than $7/qt for it.


Their XTL doesn't have an LL-01 oil in it though frown
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#2927979 - 03/04/13 02:38 PM Re: FUCHS TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 5W-40 [Re: dparm]
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Registered: 04/17/06
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Loc: Irvine, CA
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Link to PDS.

If it was cheaper than M1 0w-40, I'd use it. smile

But with M1 0w-40 being $5/qt around here, I don't think that's going to happen.

Originally Posted By: dparm
Their XTL line is far more appealing, in my opinion.

That oil will work fine but I wouldn't pay more than $7/qt for it.

Hard to beat M1 0W40 at $5/qt. You can get a little less than $5/qt but not as good, or you can get an oil just as good or may be a little better but will cost you a lot more, 40-50% more or higher.
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#2928025 - 03/04/13 03:04 PM Re: FUCHS TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 5W-40 [Re: OVERKILL]
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I believe these oils are mid/low SAPS.

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#2928032 - 03/04/13 03:08 PM Re: FUCHS TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 5W-40 [Re: supercity]
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: supercity
I believe these oils are mid/low SAPS.


I wouldn't think so with respect to the LL-01 version shrug
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#2928034 - 03/04/13 03:10 PM Re: FUCHS TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 5W-40 [Re: OVERKILL]
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Mobil 1 0W-40 > *

Especially for the money. Just saying... grin
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#2928041 - 03/04/13 03:14 PM Re: FUCHS TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE SAE 5W-40 [Re: supercity]
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Registered: 10/30/02
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Loc: Michigan
Originally Posted By: supercity
I believe these oils are mid/low SAPS.

Those meeting LL-04 spec would be mid/low SAPS, IMO.
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