Using OEM oil filters for VW may reduce oil consumption
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Who makes it?
This info has been out there for years in the UK. Not strictly to do with oil consumption but with regard to start-up noise.
These days it is so easy to get decent Bosch, Mann and Hengst filters in the UK, mostly Made in Germany for next to nothing that there isn't much of market for the [censored] that was around 10yrs ago.
Especially with specialists like EuroCarParts and German, Swedish & French.
Not sure who makes the OEM VW filters by I assume it is one of the three above.
I have a Bosch filter and a Mann filter for the wife's Clio on the shelf and I looked at them the other day and to be honest the look identical apart from external branding even down to two colour bands on the oil seal.
These days it is so easy to get decent Bosch, Mann and Hengst filters in the UK, mostly Made in Germany for next to nothing that there isn't much of market for the [censored] that was around 10yrs ago.
Especially with specialists like EuroCarParts and German, Swedish & French.
Not sure who makes the OEM VW filters by I assume it is one of the three above.
I have a Bosch filter and a Mann filter for the wife's Clio on the shelf and I looked at them the other day and to be honest the look identical apart from external branding even down to two colour bands on the oil seal.
Mann, Hengst, or Mahle for VAG cars.
Oil pressure is regulated by the oil pump to some extent. The oil filter only goes into bypass or normal.
I read at some forum that OEM filters - brand not named - have a metal bearing for the bypass valve which does a better job than the plastic ball on third party ones. Wish they named who makes the OEM ones.
Does oil pressure have an impact on oil consumption?
Does oil pressure have an impact on oil consumption?
Mann makes the OE filter for the VAG 30v V6 engines. I don't know about any of the other engine families.
Hi,
I am the tech manager at FRAM. The oil pressure regulater valve on your car is in the engine block, not the filter. The filter does have a bypass valve that would open if the filter is clogged. Not sure where this tall tale comes from but it is simply not true. I can probably dig up a diagram of your oiling system if your interested. [email protected]
I am the tech manager at FRAM. The oil pressure regulater valve on your car is in the engine block, not the filter. The filter does have a bypass valve that would open if the filter is clogged. Not sure where this tall tale comes from but it is simply not true. I can probably dig up a diagram of your oiling system if your interested. [email protected]
Hi Jay,
Is the bypass valve calibrated acc to VW spec? What PSI does it open for my 2.0 model? I'm asking because of this thread:
http://www.passatworld.com/forums/42-vol...tml#post2542392
Thanks.
Is the bypass valve calibrated acc to VW spec? What PSI does it open for my 2.0 model? I'm asking because of this thread:
http://www.passatworld.com/forums/42-vol...tml#post2542392
Thanks.
Originally Posted By: Volvohead
Originally Posted By: dparm
Mann, Hengst, or Mahle for VAG cars.
. . . or some French brand I can't remember the name of on the CR diesels.
I prefer the above German makes whenever possible.
French brand filters are made by Purflux (Fram group ?)
Originally Posted By: dparm
Mann, Hengst, or Mahle for VAG cars.
. . . or some French brand I can't remember the name of on the CR diesels.
I prefer the above German makes whenever possible.
French brand filters are made by Purflux (Fram group ?)
Originally Posted By: bigjl
These days it is so easy to get decent Bosch, Mann and Hengst filters in the UK, mostly Made in Germany for next to nothing that there isn't much of market for the [censored] that was around 10yrs ago.
Same deal here. Anyone who owns a German car here and doesn't buy a German Bosch, Mann, Mahle, or Hengst filter is nuts. I could get OEM filters for my Audi for cheaper than I can get any filter for my F-150 up here, even with corporate discount.
These days it is so easy to get decent Bosch, Mann and Hengst filters in the UK, mostly Made in Germany for next to nothing that there isn't much of market for the [censored] that was around 10yrs ago.
Same deal here. Anyone who owns a German car here and doesn't buy a German Bosch, Mann, Mahle, or Hengst filter is nuts. I could get OEM filters for my Audi for cheaper than I can get any filter for my F-150 up here, even with corporate discount.
Sorry, there is no way your choice of filter is having enough of an effect on oil pressure to cause changes in your oil consumption. Just not gonna happen. Your choice of oil, maybe, has an effect. Your driving style has an effect. Your engine springing a leak or rings sticking has an effect. But not your oil filter.
Originally Posted By: frenchboy
Originally Posted By: Volvohead
Originally Posted By: dparm
Mann, Hengst, or Mahle for VAG cars.
. . . or some French brand I can't remember the name of on the CR diesels.
I prefer the above German makes whenever possible.
French brand filters are made by Purflux (Fram group ?)
SOGEFI.
Looks like no Fram I've ever seen.
Originally Posted By: Volvohead
Originally Posted By: dparm
Mann, Hengst, or Mahle for VAG cars.
. . . or some French brand I can't remember the name of on the CR diesels.
I prefer the above German makes whenever possible.
French brand filters are made by Purflux (Fram group ?)
SOGEFI.
Looks like no Fram I've ever seen.
This is an exotic looking filter, I love it. I guess it is an expensive filter.
Omg it's the chevron-pleated can-of-death. Just kidding, Purflux come OEM on most french cars as mentioned before but are not really that expensive. I should go pick up a couple Renault filters for 8.50€/each for my dad's newly acquired beater.
OEM is not always the best option, Wix/Filtron made Opel-filters had a problem with the filter element coming loose from the can. Peugeot/Citroen cartridge-filters (Purflux) on the other hand have a very flimsy plastic "cross" in the center which holds down the anti-drainback valve. The cross often cracked causing low oil-pressure, I replaced quite a few back when I worked at a quicklube.
OEM is not always the best option, Wix/Filtron made Opel-filters had a problem with the filter element coming loose from the can. Peugeot/Citroen cartridge-filters (Purflux) on the other hand have a very flimsy plastic "cross" in the center which holds down the anti-drainback valve. The cross often cracked causing low oil-pressure, I replaced quite a few back when I worked at a quicklube.
I have owned and serviced loads of French cars and have never seen the plastic section you talk about cracked or damaged in any way.
Any chance it was "operator error" at the kind of quick lube place you worked T?
One thing I have always noticed with those places is that a large section of the staff aren't the most skilled or diligent of persons.
Just my opinion.
The above filter looks like a Citreon or Renault one can't remember at the minute but I remember fitting one.
A very similar filter was fitted to the Citroen C2 I did an oil change on a little while ago, though the filter media was straight rather than pleated like that, I assume that is done to increase the filter surface area?
Any chance it was "operator error" at the kind of quick lube place you worked T?
One thing I have always noticed with those places is that a large section of the staff aren't the most skilled or diligent of persons.
Just my opinion.
The above filter looks like a Citreon or Renault one can't remember at the minute but I remember fitting one.
A very similar filter was fitted to the Citroen C2 I did an oil change on a little while ago, though the filter media was straight rather than pleated like that, I assume that is done to increase the filter surface area?
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
This is an exotic looking filter, I love it. I guess it is an expensive filter.
Surprisingly, I just bought a case of 5 of them online for $30. That's not bad. The build on them is comparable to a Mann, which is to say stout.
They're certainly cheaper than the Hengst fleece MB cartridges at $20 a pop.
This is an exotic looking filter, I love it. I guess it is an expensive filter.
Surprisingly, I just bought a case of 5 of them online for $30. That's not bad. The build on them is comparable to a Mann, which is to say stout.
They're certainly cheaper than the Hengst fleece MB cartridges at $20 a pop.
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