Perhaps the final word on oil additives...

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Originally posted by Terry:
427ZO6, I guess that Dyson Analysis and Molakule testing results are technically ,too tainted for you to take seriously ?

Maybe my memory has failed me and what I recollect from your test results is more impressive than I recall. By the way, I forgot, what scientific/engineering periodical are your test results published in?
 
427Z06, I am responding to your derogatory comments in the above thread relating to this; http://www.lubecontrol.com/reports.htm


Please keep in mind that as an independent analysis consultant I work for competing entities using proprietary techniques that I guard very closely. Publishing a paper disclosing any of that would be counterproductive therefore I have not. I have had the distinction to be asked to participate in a 2001 delegation to China by the People to People Ambassadors program as a oil analysis specialist representative in that Mechanical Engineering delegation lead by Ward O.Winer Ph.D.

Not bad for a unpublished former mechanic and race car driver!
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I read somewhere that the cost to manufacture synthetic oil is roughly the same as conventional oil. Whether this is precisely true or not, I really don't know. Yet almost all so called "synthetics" are sold at 2-8x's premium to conventional oil!!??

An all thread search would have hit on at least three discussions regarding base oil prices.

Group IV PAO synthetic base oils cost 3 to 5 times what mineral oils cost (depending on viscosity), Group V esters cost 5 to 8 times what mineral oils cost, and Group III "advertised" synthetics cost about 1.5 to 2.5 times mineral oils.
 
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Originally posted by Terry:
427Z06, I am responding to your derogatory comments in the above thread relating to this; http://www.lubecontrol.com/reports.htm


Please keep in mind that as an independent analysis consultant I work for competing entities using proprietary techniques that I guard very closely. Publishing a paper disclosing any of that would be counterproductive therefore I have not. I have had the distinction to be asked to participate in a 2001 delegation to China by the People to People Ambassadors program as a oil analysis specialist representative in that Mechanical Engineering delegation lead by Ward O.Winer Ph.D.

Not bad for a unpublished former mechanic and race car driver!
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Chill Terry, you still have my respect. Just let's not confuse peer reviewed scientific studies with "proprietary techniques" only you can interpret.

You are probably very good at what you do, but I will always question any study that attempts to prove anything unless methodolgy, data and the analysis is peered reviewed. Anyone who goes through my posts will see I've pretty much have held that view consistently. (That is if your willing to sift through all the goofy posts I do for entertainment purposes)
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As we say in military Terry, "press on". And ignore us spectators in the cheap seats.
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additives are here to stay. period

here is a quote from a national magazine tribology and lubrication technology magazine


please describe a lubrication -related technology you've recently seen that achieved greater energy effieciency. how can tribology better contribute to improving energy efficiency of machinery.

synthetic lubricants 56%
lubricant additives 53%
lubrication monitoring and replacement 33%
 
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Originally posted by 427Z06:
Maybe my memory has failed me and what I recollect from your test results is more impressive than I recall. By the way, I forgot, what scientific/engineering periodical are your test results published in? [/QB]

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I dont know Terry but he evidently knows what he is doing.It seems that there are some on this board that tend to 'talk down' to others because 'they' think a person must have a degree after degree to have any knowledge.This is wrong.

For a person to imply that Terry,or any one else for that part,is not 'smart' enough because they haven't been 'published' is an insult to him and others.The person that does imply such seems to be showing their lack of intelligence.

How many thought that Einstein was crazy,especially during his younger days?

Their is more to knowledge that being able to read a paper/book that is technical and have an understanding of such.

True knowledge is being able to understand what is being read along with the ability to apply what is being read and to use what is being read in a manner that would demonstrate understanding of such.

Webster's describes knowledge as:*what is known;learning;enlightening.
*the body of facts,principles,etc.accumulated by mankind.

Considering these things,lets not judge a person on what 'we' consider to be the standard for knowledge but on the individuals merits.

There are many people in the world that are extremely intelligent and knowledgeable about many things that dont have a degree in the field being discussed,however,they are as knowledgeable of said field as one that may have a degree.
 
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