Recent Topics
My Oil Choices delivering pizzas
by AvoidTheNoid
07/22/14 09:41 AM
gas & diesel now only 10 cents apart
by Donald
07/22/14 09:37 AM
Complete Redline Synthetic Harley Oil/Fluid Change
by Climb14er
07/22/14 09:11 AM
spraying fluid film
by buck91
07/22/14 08:51 AM
AAP $50 off $100+ first 1000 customers.
by sayjac
07/22/14 06:20 AM
2014 WSBK Laguna Seca Photo Show...
by BusyLittleShop
07/22/14 01:50 AM
What Cologne Do You Wear?
by Cooper
07/22/14 01:38 AM
Wix filter manufacturing changes ?
by CELICA_XX
07/22/14 01:07 AM
Valvoline Conv. 5 qts 10W30 $14.39 Amazon
by Warstud
07/22/14 12:06 AM
1997 Audi A4 Quatro engine oil recomendations
by Nevets91
07/21/14 11:44 PM
Men's Body Spray
by MolaKule
07/21/14 11:07 PM
Real mechanics don't use Walmart oil filters
by SilverC6
07/21/14 10:12 PM
Newest Members
Moral, momay, MatBo911, platypus20, rcube
50704 Registered Users
Who's Online
98 registered (2010_FX4, 29662, 123Saab, 2008wrx, apollomaker, 1999nick, 5 invisible), 1927 Guests and 213 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
50704 Members
64 Forums
216624 Topics
3408898 Posts

Max Online: 2862 @ 07/07/14 03:10 PM
Donate to BITOG

Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >
Topic Options
#2767937 - 10/09/12 07:16 PM New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40
Pablo Offline


Registered: 10/28/02
Posts: 46539
Loc: Duvall WA - Pacific NW USA

Top
#2767950 - 10/09/12 07:30 PM Re: New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40 [Re: Pablo]
RiceCake Offline


Registered: 09/22/12
Posts: 1044
Loc: Coldtown, Canada
Only meets older Euro specs though on almost all counts.

Top
#2767951 - 10/09/12 07:31 PM Re: New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40 [Re: Pablo]
Quattro Pete Offline


Registered: 10/30/02
Posts: 24665
Loc: Illinoistan
Cool!

What are the specs for it? I don't see it on amsoil.com.
_________________________
'02 530i (PU 5W-40)
'08 C300 4Matic (M1 0W-40)
'13 F700 GS (Spectro 15W-50)

Top
#2767960 - 10/09/12 07:39 PM Re: New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40 [Re: Pablo]
volk06 Offline


Registered: 10/04/10
Posts: 4237
Loc: .
What's the difference between low and full saps?

Top
#2767973 - 10/09/12 07:55 PM Re: New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40 [Re: Quattro Pete]
Pablo Offline


Registered: 10/28/02
Posts: 46539
Loc: Duvall WA - Pacific NW USA
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Cool!

What are the specs for it? I don't see it on amsoil.com.


It's not on the market yet. Just a tease picture from the catalog. Oct 15 as it says.

Originally Posted By: volk06
What's the difference between low and full saps?


Ball park: Low SAPS oils are 600-800 ppm. Full SAPS ~1200-1400+ ppm

Top
#2767991 - 10/09/12 08:09 PM Re: New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40 [Re: Pablo]
buster Offline


Registered: 11/16/02
Posts: 29080
Loc: NJ
The cost of the full saps is $7.40. Probably a group III blend. Nice! They sort of needed a full sap x40.

The additives for the low sap are probably more expensive, hence the cost difference.

Top
#2768006 - 10/09/12 08:26 PM Re: New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40 [Re: buster]
BTLew81 Offline


Registered: 10/23/06
Posts: 1084
Loc: Illinois
Pablo. Can you confirm group 3 or 4? Regardless this is most likely a great oil. Hopefully it competes with M1 0w40. If it does ill be using it. Have been waiting for a real euro oil from amsoil!
_________________________
2013 Jetta TDI Premium
Oil: Factory Fill
Filter: VW OEM
Next Up: PU Euro L 5w30/OEM Filter

Top
#2768012 - 10/09/12 08:32 PM Re: New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40 [Re: Pablo]
volk06 Offline


Registered: 10/04/10
Posts: 4237
Loc: .
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Cool!

What are the specs for it? I don't see it on amsoil.com.


It's not on the market yet. Just a tease picture from the catalog. Oct 15 as it says.

Originally Posted By: volk06
What's the difference between low and full saps?


Ball park: Low SAPS oils are 600-800 ppm. Full SAPS ~1200-1400+ ppm


I'm assuming ZDDP levels?

Top
#2768034 - 10/09/12 08:48 PM Re: New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40 [Re: volk06]
Pablo Offline


Registered: 10/28/02
Posts: 46539
Loc: Duvall WA - Pacific NW USA
Originally Posted By: volk06


I'm assuming ZDDP levels?


Sulphated Ash, Phosphorus and Sulfur

Top
#2768036 - 10/09/12 08:50 PM Re: New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40 [Re: Pablo]
volk06 Offline


Registered: 10/04/10
Posts: 4237
Loc: .
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Originally Posted By: volk06


I'm assuming ZDDP levels?


Sulphated Ash, Phosphorus and Sulfur


Thank you. Never knew what SAPS stood for until now.

Top
#2768143 - 10/10/12 01:19 AM Re: New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40 [Re: Pablo]
tudorart Offline


Registered: 07/17/11
Posts: 187
Loc: Transylvania, Romania, EU
Yes! Finally ! they lack a 5W40 full saps ... I like the MB229.5 suitable for AMG models among others.
Hey Pablo would this be the same base stock as the XL and OE? you'd think so by the price...is it gr III or III+/GTL.

As far as I know MB229.5 is only attainable with PAO and GTL period. I have the white paper somewhere...

Did you notice the Dexos 2 on the MID saps? Has it been reformulated or just tested and labeled? I'm glad they added it anyhow.

Top
#2768207 - 10/10/12 05:57 AM Re: New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40 [Re: tudorart]
Pablo Offline


Registered: 10/28/02
Posts: 46539
Loc: Duvall WA - Pacific NW USA
I do not know the formula. I suspect a blend of several/many basestocks, but this is only speculation.

Top
#2773097 - 10/15/12 08:34 AM Re: New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40 [Re: Pablo]
BTLew81 Offline


Registered: 10/23/06
Posts: 1084
Loc: Illinois
Anymore on this? Want to order some but have not seen it on the site yet...
_________________________
2013 Jetta TDI Premium
Oil: Factory Fill
Filter: VW OEM
Next Up: PU Euro L 5w30/OEM Filter

Top
#2773156 - 10/15/12 09:52 AM Re: New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40 [Re: Pablo]
buster Offline


Registered: 11/16/02
Posts: 29080
Loc: NJ
Looks similar to the AFL, 5w-40, but with higher additive treat levels. I'd say predominately Group III.

FP of 428F and PP of -38F.

Top
#2773188 - 10/15/12 10:31 AM Re: New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40 [Re: Pablo]
BTLew81 Offline


Registered: 10/23/06
Posts: 1084
Loc: Illinois
Finally saw it on the site. Looks pretty good to me. Nice TBN and general specs. Have a stash of M1 0w40, but might have to try this out. Even if it is group 3, still looks like a performer with a nice add pack.

The price is nice too. Even without the PC discount it's just over $7! Seems like a bargain!
_________________________
2013 Jetta TDI Premium
Oil: Factory Fill
Filter: VW OEM
Next Up: PU Euro L 5w30/OEM Filter

Top
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >