2003 Pontiac Vibe 201,294 Mobil 1 10W/30 27,900 M

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LAB NUMBER: F14287 UNIT ID: 03 VIBE



OIL REPORT DATE: 8/7/2012 CLIENT ID:



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Toyota 1.8L 4-cyl (1ZZ-FE)MAKE/MODEL: OIL TYPE & GRADE: Mobil 1 10W/30

Gasoline (Unleaded)FUEL TYPE: OIL USE INTERVAL: 27,920 Miles

ADDITIONAL INFO:





COMMENTS TOM: The only thing highlighted last time was

aluminum, and that dropped back a tick this time around,

leaving your Vibe with a clean report. Iron and silicon are

still above average for this type of engine, but silicon has

been reading at this level for quite a while now, so it's not

a problem, and the excess iron is due to the long oil run.

Universal averages show 8 ppm iron is normal after ~5,600

miles of oil use, but you ran nearly five times as long on the

oil, so three times the iron isn't bad! The TBN was down to

0.8, so we wouldn't run longer for now, but this is a nice

report!



ELEMENTS

IN

PARTS

PER

MILLION

MI/HR on Oil 27,920 29,895 8,407 11,778 9,948 7,849 UNIVERSAL AVERAGES



MI/HR on Unit 201,249 UNIT / 173,329 128,943 76,628 64,850 54,902

Sample Date 07/24/12 AVERAGES LOCATION 08/22/11 01/13/10 09/07/07 02/02/07 04/17/06

Make Up Oil Added 1.5 qts 4 qts 0.5 qts 0 qts 0 qts 0 qts

ALUMINUM 5 4 6 4 4 2 2 3

CHROMIUM 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0

IRON 24 16 21 16 16 14 7 8

COPPER 1 1 1 1 2 1 0 2

LEAD 1 1 1 1 3 2 0 1

TIN 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1

MOLYBDENUM 75 89 113 99 89 81 74 77

NICKEL 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0

MANGANESE 1 2 2 2 3 2 0 1

SILVER 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

TITANIUM 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1

POTASSIUM 5 3 3 4 3 1 2 1

BORON 39 49 59 46 40 40 68 40

SILICON 23 19 22 21 21 16 12 14

SODIUM 6 86 17 8 6 6 39

CALCIUM 1340 2336 2506 2625 2837 2317 2388 2195

MAGNESIUM 875 209 182 69 59 48 18 113

PHOSPHORUS 748 695 761 699 669 659 636 713

ZINC 997 881 1001 883 866 784 754 840

BARIUM 0 1 0 0 1 1 1 0



Values

Should Be*





PROPERTIES

SUS Viscosity @ 210°F 64.3 58-68 67.3 61.8 57.9 57.7 59.2

cSt Viscosity @ 100°C 11.41 9.7-12.7 12.23 10.73 9.63 9.55 9.98

Flashpoint in °F 375 >365 405 370 375 385 395

Fuel %
Antifreeze % 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0

Water % 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0

Insolubles % 0.3
TBN 0.8 >1.0 2.2 2.0 4.1 1.8 2.9

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This has been run at 15,000 miles OCI until the last 2 which where 27,920 and 29,895. Always using Toyota Oil Filter Part # 90915 yzzF1 which is larger then stock.
 
Did I read this correctly? You're doing almost 30K OCI?
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Wow, I don't see a point in running oil this long, but it is nice and informative for the rest of us.

This is probably the longest oil run I have ever seen on BITOG.

And, it is a good report at that. I am surprised that you still have any TBN left after 30,000 KM!!
 
I sure as [censored] wouldnt run a oci like this nor do I recommend it , but it is working for ya. Impressive , cant deny XOM makes a quality lube.
 
Would reconsider using a end-capless Toyota OEM standard interval filter. A synthetic extended interval filter may be a better fit for your OCI.
 
Kind of proves what XOM has said all along in that the Tbn will hang on for quite some time. This is the SN stuff too.

They test all Mobil 1 grades out to 25,000 miles.

Notice how oxidation resitant M1 is. You can see from this report that it's still a 30 grade, but slowly creeping up.
 
Yeah if I'm reading it correctly the viscosity is 11.4, which is still a solid 30 grade. It stade in grade.
 
Originally Posted By: Thax
I sure as [censored] wouldnt run a oci like this nor do I recommend it , but it is working for ya. Impressive , cant deny XOM makes a quality lube.


+1

I would never suggest going this far either. 15k is a lot, 30k is really pushing it LOL. Held up well though in this application.

No bypass filter either.
 
Good report relative to the miles. How many months was the oil in use. What type of driving highway/city mix?
 
This is mostly highway driving. 15 mile trip mornings, and after noon daily. With 5 or 6 trips 50 to 80 mile plus return every week, Occasional short shopping trips also.

Had always run 15,000 Then the wife took over driving this car and ignored the stickers. Drats! I plan on going 20,000 now.

Oil was in use for about 10 months I also used the wrong info this is 5W/30 not sure tat matters. maybe moderator could fix the subject line?
 
These are great results. One of the more impressive long drain UOA's I've seen.

Stick with it and use the Mobil 1 Extended Performance 5w30 oil.
 
I have a friend which I have mentioned here before that does 15-20+K OCIs with his 99 Silverado. I saw him recently and he now has around 325K on his truck. Valve covers have never been removed. The engine still sounds great and uses very little oil. He has used nothing but M1 5-30 from day one, and he bought it new. Oh, he has never done a UOA. Also I see all this hand ringing here over TBN. As I have said many times, TBN is way over rated here. People like my fried and the OP prove it doesn't have much to do with the longivity of an engine. Also our own"FISSKER" does 15-20K on M1 0-20 and puts upward of 300K on 4 cyl Fords.
 
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This looks great for the miles run.
It would look good at half the miles run, although you'd then see comments about M1 and high iron.
TBN is long gone, but it didn't seem to make any difference.
Maybe tig is on to something with M1 after all.
The only concern here is the Potassium.
Sodium was dramatically lower on this run from the last, and M1 does not contain sodium, although trace amounts might be found.
Head gasket leak?
If so, it isn't bad and isn't getting rapaidly worse.
 
Astonishing.. Old school thinking blown out the window right there. Many people still believe 3-5K OCI's or bust. Clearly you can go much further, but this is beyond what I am even referring to. 10K on M1 is a piece of cake clearly. (in this app at least)
 
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