repairing high pressure power steering line

[mikeinaustin]

Hi folks, i have a 2002 toyota tundra v8. the power steering pump is being replaced because of failure but there is a chance that the high pressure line needs to be replaced/fixed as well. The actual cost for a new line is over $700.

I hear there are places that specialize in repairing high pressure hydraulic equipment/hoses/etc. In my case, it is a form fitted line, only available from the dealer. has anyone had success in getting a hydraulic repair shop to fix one of these types of lines? In particular a toyota high pressure power steering line?

 

[AandPDan]

$700?

You might be able to find a place to rebuild it. You'd need the old one with you. Is there any possibility of repair? Is it just the flexible portion that failed?

A boneyard may be an option for you.

 

[mechtech2]

By all means seek out your local shop for this.
It is criminal to charge $700 for a part like that.

Another option is a boneyard - a good part may be available for way less $.

 

[abycat]

Ive done it tons of times. my fav was an old viper truck. the dealer could not get one and the poor guy could not drive his truck for 5 months just after he bought it. until i fixed it of course. What i usually did was hack off the metal part and solder a male fitting usually a jic and make a hose up that will attach to that and have the same end as the other side. should be around 75-150$ for any competent shop to do.

 

[mikeinaustin]

i found a place here in austin, tx that specializes in hydraulic repair including automobile high pressure power steering lines. if my line is leaking, i will take it there. depending on exactly what is needed, they quoted me $70-$80 for the work. much better than a new oem at $700+.

 

[JHZR2]

Is the line all metal or are there rubber sections? What part failed? Lots of fancy brackets on it?

On old diesel MBs, after about 20-30 years the lines for the engine oil cooler radiator (rubber and metal) start to seep. There are two lines, to and from the heat exchanger.

They often get seized and other bad things happen with time. But lots of folks have had good luck with using hydraulic shops to put new fittings and rubber sections on them. Good shops have the parts to do 60psi hot oil, so I'd imagine they would have something for you too.


Any chance of at least a good used one from a junkyard?

 

[tig1]

700 DOLLARS!!! My heart hurts.

 

[SteveSRT8]

Originally Posted By: mikeinaustin
i found a place here in austin, tx that specializes in hydraulic repair including automobile high pressure power steering lines. if my line is leaking, i will take it there. depending on exactly what is needed, they quoted me $70-$80 for the work. much better than a new oem at $700+.


That's more like it. Sadly typical stealership story!

I use my local hose and hydraulic guy for a lot of stuff. He's cheap and makes very reliable stuff.

 

[wirelessF]

Originally Posted By: mikeinaustin
Hi folks, i have a 2002 toyota tundra v8. the power steering pump is being replaced because of failure but there is a chance that the high pressure line needs to be replaced/fixed as well. The actual cost for a new line is over $700.

I hear there are places that specialize in repairing high pressure hydraulic equipment/hoses/etc. In my case, it is a form fitted line, only available from the dealer. has anyone had success in getting a hydraulic repair shop to fix one of these types of lines? In particular a toyota high pressure power steering line?


Wow that sucks. I have the same truck and if that fails I ain't going to the dealership. I'll also have to check with local hydraulic shops (not a whole lot) if they can fix it.

 

[mikeinaustin]

it has metal and rubber sections.

i have a question, how much pressure is in a typical passenger trucks power steering line (high pressure side)? they do have relief valves, don't they? anyone ever know of a relief valve failure? just wondering.

 

[wirelessF]

According to the FSM, the high pressure side can reach up to 1,200PSI at idle with valve closed.

 

[mikeinaustin]

thanks!

here is another question, does it hurt/damage a modern power system to operate the vehicle once the pump is dead or the fluid all gone? it sure is hard to steer at low speeds, but does that cause any damage to the other components of the power steering system?

 

[bdcardinal]

Originally Posted By: mikeinaustin
thanks!

here is another question, does it hurt/damage a modern power system to operate the vehicle once the pump is dead or the fluid all gone? it sure is hard to steer at low speeds, but does that cause any damage to the other components of the power steering system?


As long as you have Popeye's forearms you are ok. Although the pump probably will not be happy running without fluid.

Take the hose off and see if a hydraulic shop can make one for you. A friend of mine kept burning the pressure hose on his 05 Mustang, and had a custom one made with heat shielding.

 

[Audios]

YOu will ruin the pump if you run it without fluid. I see 2 different lines for that car through WorldPac, do you have tow package? Not cheap, but not 700, maybe 700 installed.
44410-0C021, P/S Hose Assembly- 443.02 list, for vehicles without tow package
44410-0C072, P/S Hose Assembly-$551.23 list, w/tow package.
"Assembly combines pressure and return line, pressure runs from pump to gear, return connects to gear and reservoir side connects to cooler."

 

[mechtech2]

Without the PS pump working, there is also much more pressure on the joints in the steering column.
Long term this can not be good for them - they are not designed for this.

 

[CharBaby]

I pulled out the HP P/S Line from my wifes Lexus RX and took it into a near by radiator shop that also speicializes in high pressure lines. They made/bent only what was needed and properly crimped the hp hose(s) and left the rest of the line and hp portion alone. Cost me $90 just for the portion that was rusting/rotting. I guess a whole unit would have cost me <$200

 

[tbm3fan]

If there is a hydraulic line fab shop in your area I am sure they can do the job. The high pressure line on my 73 Polara was leaking pretty good when I bought it but all the ones in the parts books were incorrect. They did not match the particular curves of the original and so wouldn't drop in. A local, 1 man shop, copied the original with two long curve metal tubes plus rubber in between with crimped fittings all for $68.

 

[artificialist]

I had a hydraulic hose shop repair a PS hose from an obscure Toyota model. The cost was $120.

I say take your hose to a hydraulic specialist.

 

[CharBaby]

These prices are alot cheaper than the factory units...I priced the part alone online, ~ $250 to > $300. And I checked the price to have it installed. The whole job for my RX would have been $1600.00 including the parts just to have it installed from a shop/dealer. I can see why! It took me 18 hours(over a 4 day period). Yeah, no lie!

Now I am looking into replacing the RX's whole Parking Brake Cable due to rust and it has snapped. I'll probably do the job my self as I susspect the dealer or any shop will want in excess of $1000.00 and I want to make sure that I am getting OE parts(and not just some cable) and better workmanship(as this is going to get very involved). Even if it takes me all week to do, I'd rather do it myself.

 

[1 FMF]

for a lot less than $700 you can get some AN fittings or equivalent and high pressure hose from summmit, jegs, earls.
hardest part would be getting fittings to mount on the pump and wherever the hose is going to. 10' of high pressure teflon hose that holds up to 3000 psi is around $100 i think.