Focus Ecoboost 1.0L I-3

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Originally Posted By: simple_gifts
106HP, 267K miles, still waiting to be run off the road....



+1 My cavalier had 120HP (engine, more like 85 at the wheels) pushing through that old 3 speed auto. I never had any problems merging in that car. Heck, our Jeep did 0-60 in 22 seconds with the 2.5L Four 3sp, and big tires, and even that I could take on the highway. It's all in the planning.
 
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
If you don't know how to merge onto a highway with a car like that you can't drive.

125hp is more than enough to move around a car that weighs 1k pounds more.

Drive around in a 240D auto for a bit and report back on slow.


Which accelerates fine and as fast as trucks on the overcrowded roads around here...
 
I think it is also generally a fact that the smaller the engine size in 4 cylinder units the smoother they run and the freer they rev. I know in Europe that I usually see that reviewers seem to feel the quality of the smaller units is generally better especially with gas engined models.

I know that the 1.4L gas engine used in the Fiesta and Ka are highly praised over the 1.6L version.
 
Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
I think it is also generally a fact that the smaller the engine size in 4 cylinder units the smoother they run and the freer they rev. I know in Europe that I usually see that reviewers seem to feel the quality of the smaller units is generally better especially with gas engined models.

I know that the 1.4L gas engine used in the Fiesta and Ka are highly praised over the 1.6L version.


The 1.4 in my cruze is very smooth, using no balance shafts. A lot of that I think is attributable to the small pistons. It's really smooth for a 4 cylinder. Though The 3.0L in the Equinox is still about the smoothest feeling engine I've driven.
 
Originally Posted By: Nick R
The 3.0L in the Equinox is still about the smoothest feeling engine I've driven.


Yes, but we are talking about small engines in my book anything bigger than a 4 cylinder engine is a "big" engine.
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But it is also well known that 6 cylinder engines are or can be very smooth running.
 
The one thing I have against 2 liter or smaller inline engines is that they can sound like a bucket of bolts from outside the car. Both of our cars sound great from inside the car, but sound horrible outside. There isn't the mass to attenuate sound like a larger engine has. Whatever, it's a tiny nit to pick.
 
Originally Posted By: sciphi
The one thing I have against 2 liter or smaller inline engines is that they can sound like a bucket of bolts from outside the car. Both of our cars sound great from inside the car, but sound horrible outside. There isn't the mass to attenuate sound like a larger engine has. Whatever, it's a tiny nit to pick.


I agree. The cruze engine sounds awful from the outside.
 
Originally Posted By: BeerCan
Originally Posted By: 45ACP
3-cyl cars:

1. Suzuki Swift/Geo Metro.
2. DAIHATSU (please confirm?)
3. Really thought the Festiva was a 3.

I hat the Geo Metro XFis can still get $2500.. from 1992..

Thoughts on these?

Oh, and i vote 89 Volkswagen FOX 4-speed for slowest car...

I had a Subaru Justy with a 3cyl 1L engine. I could run faster than it could accelerate, especially if I had passengers. What a slug that car was LOL


I had a 3 banger '88 Chevy Sprint. Slow. With passengers even more so. 5sp manual. Had to shift out of fifth on turnpike at even the slightest up grade. Reliability-bullet proof. Put 188k miles on it with just minor issues. At reasonable speeds often got close to 50mpg. Pedal to metal, it might have done 80mph, but scary at that speed. One liter motor rated at about 55hp IIRC. Way too light: Winter weather an adventure. Passing large trucks with wind buffeting = white knuckles.

Joe
 
And now we have (all too few) cars that will get 50 mpg without the white-knuckle experience. Ahh, progress!
 
Originally Posted By: sciphi
The one thing I have against 2 liter or smaller inline engines is that they can sound like a bucket of bolts from outside the car. Both of our cars sound great from inside the car, but sound horrible outside. There isn't the mass to attenuate sound like a larger engine has. Whatever, it's a tiny nit to pick.


The Fusion Hybrids at work sound like a bucket of marbles when the engine is idling, and they're 2.5L engines. They sound pretty bad, but still run good. I think that's more in material choices for components like intake manifolds, cam covers, etc. Newer engines likely have thinner walls on these parts which likely attenuates less noise than older designs with thicker walls.
 
125 hp cant be all that bad. My grandmother has a 1994 Ford Tempo 2 door with the 2.3L w/ 60k miles on it, lol. I think it only puts out like 88 horseower. It's just fine around town, but it does feel really slow on the freeway. I would imagine adding almost 40hp to it and there wouldnt be a problem.
 
My 1996 Contour Zetec 4 is rated at 120 hp. It has a 5 speed manual and does just fine in accelerating and maintaining speed, even loaded with luggage. And trust me my wife packs for twice the time we'll be away
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. I think the thing with small engines is they work a lot better with manual trannies than auto trannies, at least in the past. I drove an auto tranny version of my car and it was a dog by comparision. It ran ok but had no zip and downshifted frequently. It just labored more.

Whimsey
 
Maybe even better:

Under the hood lies Ford’s direct-injected, 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder, bookended by redesigned intake and exhaust systems. U.S.-market output figures have not been announced—it doesn’t go on sale here until late 2012—but the engine makes 247 horsepower and 266 pound-feet of torque in Europe.

Rest assured, our figures will be close. According to Capito, every car in every region will be the same, with the same engine, the same suspension, same tires, same brakes. This is a departure from standard Ford protocol
 
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Drive around in a 240D auto for a bit and report back on slow.

Try an old W123 200D with a 59HP engine in Germany.
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It was fine, never had a problem. Slow? Yes but drivable with a 90mph top speed and incredible fuel economy.
With some of the lowest speed limits in the world (even less than some old soviet bloc countries) do we really need more to crawl around in the US?
 
The only reason you hear this stuff about "not enough power" is the same reason you hear the nonsense about, "not enough rear seat room", and "Americans only like big cars".

The car makers pay marketing companies to come to the conclusions that they desire which always have "higher profit margins" at the root of the conclusion. LOL
 
Ok but most importantly, what are the viscosities of the speced oils here and in Europe?
 
I don't understand why the two of the pistons would be TDC while one is bottom dead center; why not have the pistons move exactly +- 120 degrees out of phase with one another?

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Its running refinement is more of a surprise. When the rear and middle pistons are at top dead center, the front one is at bottom dead center, creating a rocking moment. To save friction, the engine runs without a balance shaft. Ford's simple solution is to run eccentric balance weights on both the flywheel and the front pulley, largely canceling the vibe. What vibration remains mimics that of an inline-five.

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/hatc.../#ixzz1ohali6Vz


I like the looks of this hatchback and would love to see more 3 cyls in newer cars.
 
Originally Posted By: DrDusty86
I think with a 0-60 run of 12.5 seconds, people would get slammed in the rear by Semis trying to enter the highway. I would have to cut the driver some slack if they could not get up to the speed of traffic using the on ramp. I will break the tires lose in my Escort, and shift it a 7k to make 70-75mph if I need to. For ANYTHING more than a Smart, getting on the highway slower than the speed of traffic is [censored] dangerous and the BOZOs that pull this [censored] should be ticketed/lose points.
Dusty


I don't know where in Texas you live, but here in Austin, people getting on the freeway at 40-45 mph is a fairly common occurrence.
 
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