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Originally Posted By: JAG
The Synerlec sulfurized ester additive in some Royal Purple oils made it unique. Not enough time has passed for the performance to be reasonably characterized of the new versions of RP that lack Synerlec.
It doesn't matter that RP is a blender and XOM is a producer and blender. RP had more flexibility in what they could use because they didn't always have to keep the most current API specs which tend to impose more and more strict chemical limits with each new iteration. It was/is not a fair fight because of that.
So who makes the components of "Synerlec", XOM? Infineum? SOPUS? HATCO? BP? Obviously RP isn't making it in-house.
And how does RP have more flexibility? XOM has "race" lubes that don't need to comply with any of the given spec's, it isn't like XOM is forced to walk the line and RP can run all over the field because they won't pay for certifications and approvals.
If anything, it has gone the other way. While XOM has always had both mainstream and racing oils, now RP is getting into blending mainstream standards-compliant oils to try and compete with XOM, SOPUS, BP, Ashland....etc. Why do you think that is?
So yes it does matter that RP is a blender and XOM is a producer and a blender. Because XOM can make products that only they have access to. This could include proprietary base stocks, various types of AN's and Esters, and they can most certainly use Infineum and XOM Chemical to fab themselves up some unique additives if they so choose. If Mercedes comes to XOM TODAY and says "we need an oil that does THIS" XOM can make it. They don't need to contact anybody and see if those components even exist before they agree to it, they are Exxon-freakin-Mobil, they've got the resources to make whatever the heck these companies want! That's what happens when your revenue is half a trillion dollars!
And THAT why Honda went to XOM to develop HTO-06, that's why Ferrari has an agreement with SOPUS, that's WHY BMW has a Motorsport agreement with BP. These companies can develop what these engine manufacturers NEED to win races!
So yes JAG, you are right, it isn't a fair fight. But you are wrong as to why and as to who has the advantage. There is nothing stopping anybody from running Mobil 1 0w30 race oil in their street cars. You've got your angle wrong.
The Synerlec sulfurized ester additive in some Royal Purple oils made it unique. Not enough time has passed for the performance to be reasonably characterized of the new versions of RP that lack Synerlec.
It doesn't matter that RP is a blender and XOM is a producer and blender. RP had more flexibility in what they could use because they didn't always have to keep the most current API specs which tend to impose more and more strict chemical limits with each new iteration. It was/is not a fair fight because of that.
So who makes the components of "Synerlec", XOM? Infineum? SOPUS? HATCO? BP? Obviously RP isn't making it in-house.
And how does RP have more flexibility? XOM has "race" lubes that don't need to comply with any of the given spec's, it isn't like XOM is forced to walk the line and RP can run all over the field because they won't pay for certifications and approvals.
If anything, it has gone the other way. While XOM has always had both mainstream and racing oils, now RP is getting into blending mainstream standards-compliant oils to try and compete with XOM, SOPUS, BP, Ashland....etc. Why do you think that is?
So yes it does matter that RP is a blender and XOM is a producer and a blender. Because XOM can make products that only they have access to. This could include proprietary base stocks, various types of AN's and Esters, and they can most certainly use Infineum and XOM Chemical to fab themselves up some unique additives if they so choose. If Mercedes comes to XOM TODAY and says "we need an oil that does THIS" XOM can make it. They don't need to contact anybody and see if those components even exist before they agree to it, they are Exxon-freakin-Mobil, they've got the resources to make whatever the heck these companies want! That's what happens when your revenue is half a trillion dollars!
And THAT why Honda went to XOM to develop HTO-06, that's why Ferrari has an agreement with SOPUS, that's WHY BMW has a Motorsport agreement with BP. These companies can develop what these engine manufacturers NEED to win races!
So yes JAG, you are right, it isn't a fair fight. But you are wrong as to why and as to who has the advantage. There is nothing stopping anybody from running Mobil 1 0w30 race oil in their street cars. You've got your angle wrong.