I need to top off the wife's 09 Liberty and the manual says to you extended life HOAT antifreeze. What is in the vehicle now is orange in color. I bought a bottle of house brand from Autozone that says extended life on the bottle (compatible with any color antifreeze) but no where on the bottle do I see the acronymn HOAT. Do I have to correct product?
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Originally Posted By: outoforder
I need to top off the wife's 09 Liberty and the manual says to you extended life HOAT antifreeze. What is in the vehicle now is orange in color. I bought a bottle of house brand from Autozone that says extended life on the bottle (compatible with any color antifreeze) but no where on the bottle do I see the acronymn HOAT. Do I have to correct product?
There are THREE commonly available choices for your vehicle:
1) Mopar G-05 antifreeze (its more red than orange if you compare it side-by-side to DexCool, which is truly orange)
2) Zerex G-05, which is yellow and comes in a gold bottle
3) Motorcraft Premium Gold G-05, also yellow.
I use Zerex G-05 in my Mopars, but I dye it red with food coloring so that it shows up in the overflow bottle like Mopar brand does. In my area CarQuest auto parts stores keep it on the shelves all the time, NAPA usually has it but not always. Pep Boys used to have it, but never do anymore. MalWart has it occasionally.
What you probably have from Autogroan is a DexCool compatible antifreeze, which I would not recommend except in an emergency (and even then I'd recommend topping off with distilled water instead of risking introducing 2-EHA into the system).
I need to top off the wife's 09 Liberty and the manual says to you extended life HOAT antifreeze. What is in the vehicle now is orange in color. I bought a bottle of house brand from Autozone that says extended life on the bottle (compatible with any color antifreeze) but no where on the bottle do I see the acronymn HOAT. Do I have to correct product?
There are THREE commonly available choices for your vehicle:
1) Mopar G-05 antifreeze (its more red than orange if you compare it side-by-side to DexCool, which is truly orange)
2) Zerex G-05, which is yellow and comes in a gold bottle
3) Motorcraft Premium Gold G-05, also yellow.
I use Zerex G-05 in my Mopars, but I dye it red with food coloring so that it shows up in the overflow bottle like Mopar brand does. In my area CarQuest auto parts stores keep it on the shelves all the time, NAPA usually has it but not always. Pep Boys used to have it, but never do anymore. MalWart has it occasionally.
What you probably have from Autogroan is a DexCool compatible antifreeze, which I would not recommend except in an emergency (and even then I'd recommend topping off with distilled water instead of risking introducing 2-EHA into the system).
gathermewool
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For topping off, use Distilled.
It definitively isn't Dex Cool. Those bottles were clearly labeled. I wouldn't mind paying for the Mopar labeled product, it was just that auto zone did not have any. Would I be able to find it at Walmart?
What you have in the liberty is probably g05
You'd certainly be able to find it at a Chrysler/Jeep dealer.
JHZR2
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G-05. Only that or distilled water.
Originally Posted By: outoforder
It definitively isn't Dex Cool. Those bottles were clearly labeled. I wouldn't mind paying for the Mopar labeled product, it was just that auto zone did not have any. Would I be able to find it at Walmart?
If it says "all makes" or "compatible with all coolants" or anything similar, its a DexClone like Prestone all-makes is.
Wal-mart is unlikely to have G-05, but you never know.
Like I said, check for Zerex G-05 or Motorcraft Premium Gold. They're the exact same stuff except for the red dye in Mopar, and a spritz of food coloring takes care of that (food coloring takes the heat- red velvet cake bakes at a higher temp than your engine ever sees!)
CarQuest and NAPA have been my best sources but any Ford dealer will have Motorcraft Premium Gold if you don't have a Mopar dealer nearby.
It definitively isn't Dex Cool. Those bottles were clearly labeled. I wouldn't mind paying for the Mopar labeled product, it was just that auto zone did not have any. Would I be able to find it at Walmart?
If it says "all makes" or "compatible with all coolants" or anything similar, its a DexClone like Prestone all-makes is.
Wal-mart is unlikely to have G-05, but you never know.
Like I said, check for Zerex G-05 or Motorcraft Premium Gold. They're the exact same stuff except for the red dye in Mopar, and a spritz of food coloring takes care of that (food coloring takes the heat- red velvet cake bakes at a higher temp than your engine ever sees!)
CarQuest and NAPA have been my best sources but any Ford dealer will have Motorcraft Premium Gold if you don't have a Mopar dealer nearby.
one cat puts mmo in the coolent. cant wait to try it.
Japanese cars use a HOAT coolant that is different from the stuff in American and European cars.
It contains Phosphates and an organic anti-corrosion additive. There are no Silicates because Japanese cars are built with a water pump that can't handle silicates.
so DO NOT use G-05, Motorcraft Gold, or Chrysler Long Life.
Use OEM coolant, or Zerex Asian http://www.valvoline.com/products/brands/zerex/antifreeze/105
It contains Phosphates and an organic anti-corrosion additive. There are no Silicates because Japanese cars are built with a water pump that can't handle silicates.
so DO NOT use G-05, Motorcraft Gold, or Chrysler Long Life.
Use OEM coolant, or Zerex Asian http://www.valvoline.com/products/brands/zerex/antifreeze/105
^This.
I'm using the non-ideal all makes/all models 50/50 pre-diluted Prestone in the Civic. Didn't know before, but a mechanic re-filled with this. I'm going to eventually switch over to Amsoil, Honda Genuine Type-II OR Beck/Arnley's new offering.
I'm using the non-ideal all makes/all models 50/50 pre-diluted Prestone in the Civic. Didn't know before, but a mechanic re-filled with this. I'm going to eventually switch over to Amsoil, Honda Genuine Type-II OR Beck/Arnley's new offering.
There's a very detailed thread on here talking about HOAT coolants; apologies but I couldn't find it again.
Basically, the content indicated that through research(and detailed chemical discussion), Prestone all makes all models (AMAM) would be a good one to use. It went on to say that the WalMart brand AMAM is made by Prestone and would be just as good, and went on to say that the chemical composition of these two met or exceeded manufacturers' requirements.
Basically, the content indicated that through research(and detailed chemical discussion), Prestone all makes all models (AMAM) would be a good one to use. It went on to say that the WalMart brand AMAM is made by Prestone and would be just as good, and went on to say that the chemical composition of these two met or exceeded manufacturers' requirements.
In Canada Asian car owners seem to have a good alternative to "universal" coolants (which do not have Phosphorus required for Japanese radiators). Canadiantire sells Motomaster Asian Extended Life Coolant (OAT P-formulation). It is not always on the shelves but they do have it at the back if you ask. It is 300000 km or 10 years. I was wondering whether it contains 2-EHA, so I emailed the company that seems to make it for motormaster and this is the response i got.
The product in question does NOT contain 2-EHA (2-Ethylhexanoic acid).
Angelo Macchia
Recochem Inc.
Product Development Manager
Consumer Division, Central Region
The product in question does NOT contain 2-EHA (2-Ethylhexanoic acid).
Angelo Macchia
Recochem Inc.
Product Development Manager
Consumer Division, Central Region
Originally Posted By: artificialist
Japanese cars use a HOAT coolant that is different from the stuff in American and European cars.
It contains Phosphates and an organic anti-corrosion additive. There are no Silicates because Japanese cars are built with a water pump that can't handle silicates.
so DO NOT use G-05, Motorcraft Gold, or Chrysler Long Life.
Use OEM coolant, or Zerex Asian http://www.valvoline.com/products/brands/zerex/antifreeze/105
Jeep Liberty(s) are Asian?? I missed something? It should have Mopar's version of the G-05 in it.
Japanese cars use a HOAT coolant that is different from the stuff in American and European cars.
It contains Phosphates and an organic anti-corrosion additive. There are no Silicates because Japanese cars are built with a water pump that can't handle silicates.
so DO NOT use G-05, Motorcraft Gold, or Chrysler Long Life.
Use OEM coolant, or Zerex Asian http://www.valvoline.com/products/brands/zerex/antifreeze/105
Jeep Liberty(s) are Asian?? I missed something? It should have Mopar's version of the G-05 in it.
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