Looking to replace my spark plugs on a couple cars. At Rockauto with rebate these are only about a buck each. They are described as a surface gap type. Anybody ever used these or have any other comments about them?
Bosch Platinum + 4 spark plugs---opinions?
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They are terrible for Hondas but I'm sure work well in some makes/models.
If it were me, I would use OE only replacements.. They don't always work with certain cars spark delivery systems either.
They're spark plugs. I have NEVER noticed a single difference between different brands in all of our different cars over the years...NGK, Champion, Bosch, Denso, etc.
Multi-electrode is done for longevity, BTW. Everyone has their own version of it (2, 3, 4 electrode).
Typically I go for the Denso ultra-sharp (0.4mm tip) iridium plugs in performance applications. I was very pleased with them in my S4 this last time around.
Multi-electrode is done for longevity, BTW. Everyone has their own version of it (2, 3, 4 electrode).
Typically I go for the Denso ultra-sharp (0.4mm tip) iridium plugs in performance applications. I was very pleased with them in my S4 this last time around.
I ran them for years when they first came out. Worked great in a variety of cars and trucks.
But there's enough anecdotal squealing out there to be careful. Some cars are fussy.
But there's enough anecdotal squealing out there to be careful. Some cars are fussy.
BTW they are OEM in tons of vehicles, so they can't be all that bad..... ;-)
Don't know why but they made my Camaro run like [censored]. This was a good while back and I decided to try them, against some other Camaro owners suggestion not to.
Gapped properly, torqued properly...they just didn't run that well. I've read it works well on some engines and some not so great. Mystery...
Gapped properly, torqued properly...they just didn't run that well. I've read it works well on some engines and some not so great. Mystery...
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what cars are bosch +4's oem in?
None to the best of my knowledge.
Mazda Wankel rotaries have multiple side electrode plugs, but they don't have pistons. (or cams or valves, etc...) They were not Bosch
Toyota Tacoma 3.4s came equipped with two side electrode plugs (like the Bosch +2) but they weren't Bosch
my anecdotal experience is that they worked just about as well as regular copper cored Bosch Supers.
what cars are bosch +4's oem in?
None to the best of my knowledge.
Mazda Wankel rotaries have multiple side electrode plugs, but they don't have pistons. (or cams or valves, etc...) They were not Bosch
Toyota Tacoma 3.4s came equipped with two side electrode plugs (like the Bosch +2) but they weren't Bosch
my anecdotal experience is that they worked just about as well as regular copper cored Bosch Supers.
I used them successfully on several of my cars (Impala, Corvette, Van). That was BEFORE iridiums (just put in Murano), these are the BEST plugs. I took a set out of my daughter's Chevy Malibu after 105,000 miles, they looked NEW !
A little pricey, but for one time cost (100,000 miles) who cares.
A little pricey, but for one time cost (100,000 miles) who cares.
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I tend to agree with most of these previous comments. Hadn't seen them before so I thought I would ask. I'll be going with Bosch Iridium plugs this time.
the +4's are great marketing hype.. they claim is the spark fires all 4 prongs, which is theoretically impossible, as current flows the path of LEAST resistance. so as it fires 1 prong, resistance changes, so the spark hunts for another prong. during this hunt, this is where misfires can occur.
these are also only single platnum plugs.
they don't work very well long term, they look cool though.
the toyota tacoma's require the double prong plug, I think it was because the angle of the cylinder head??
But from what I've seen, that's a factory spec and I'm OK with it.
but I never install a hype type plug. Just use NGK's and you'll be fine!
these are also only single platnum plugs.
they don't work very well long term, they look cool though.
the toyota tacoma's require the double prong plug, I think it was because the angle of the cylinder head??
But from what I've seen, that's a factory spec and I'm OK with it.
but I never install a hype type plug. Just use NGK's and you'll be fine!
Originally Posted By: Rand
what cars are bosch +4's oem in?
Many high-performance Audis. My S4 had either the Bosch or NGK quad-tips as OEM, for example. In fact, it was a "custom" version of the +4 with a slightly longer center electrode.
what cars are bosch +4's oem in?
Many high-performance Audis. My S4 had either the Bosch or NGK quad-tips as OEM, for example. In fact, it was a "custom" version of the +4 with a slightly longer center electrode.
Originally Posted By: another Todd
I tend to agree with most of these previous comments. Hadn't seen them before so I thought I would ask. I'll be going with Bosch Iridium plugs this time.
I got my Bosch Iridium plugs for my Murano from Rock Auto, in fact I just got my $12 rebate check today !
Good Choice, one of best plugs there is !
I tend to agree with most of these previous comments. Hadn't seen them before so I thought I would ask. I'll be going with Bosch Iridium plugs this time.
I got my Bosch Iridium plugs for my Murano from Rock Auto, in fact I just got my $12 rebate check today !
Good Choice, one of best plugs there is !
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Most mechanics don't like Bosch plugs in anything except where they were originally specd. And even then , not always.
Especially so with odd designs.
Especially so with odd designs.
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Most mechanics don't like Bosch plugs in anything except where they were originally specd. And even then , not always.
Especially so with odd designs.
Bosch was actually making NGKs (under license) for a long time...there isn't a huge difference between them, truthfully.
Most mechanics don't like Bosch plugs in anything except where they were originally specd. And even then , not always.
Especially so with odd designs.
Bosch was actually making NGKs (under license) for a long time...there isn't a huge difference between them, truthfully.
One thing for sure that I love about Bosch plugs is rolled threads instead of cut threads. Cut threads just are not as accurate and IMO are more prone to seizing than rollled threads.
In my 328, Bosch plugs cause misfires, stumbling, ultra-rich running, etc. They were awful. Replaced with OE NGK "Laser" plugs and never once had a problem. I now use a different temperature range (over 16psi vs 6.5psi at the time), but still only NGK OE.
I refuse to put Bosch in anything now, they even made my Honda lawnmower struggle and sputter (to the point of stalling), yet replaced with a Denso and I can now cut grass an inch taller than what made the Bosch plug stall, without issue. And no, no other changes, not even the gasoline.
I refuse to put Bosch in anything now, they even made my Honda lawnmower struggle and sputter (to the point of stalling), yet replaced with a Denso and I can now cut grass an inch taller than what made the Bosch plug stall, without issue. And no, no other changes, not even the gasoline.
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