Royal Purple Oil Experience - 2005 Mustang GT
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I know it has been a while since I posted the results, so a quick update on my experience with RP.
I pulled the heads to replace the springs with BeeHive's and did some light porting and polishing (clean up) I also replaced the Comp 127200 NSR's with the Parnelli Jones Comp 127300 VSR Cams. They have at highest lift without removing or limiting the phasers.
Here are some of the pictures( remember this car has 85,000 on the clock)
Porting and polishing
And yes, I did all the work myself...
I have 95,000 miles today so doing my Royal Purple oil change.
My friend's car, the one with the M1 Cams; He spun a bearing on the way back from Carlisle, PA; destroyed both heads, pistons and block as well as the cams. he is in the process of replacing the entire engine but the added cost of heads and cams is delaying the build.
I was able to test the Cams with a micrometer, I took them to the shop where his car is and had them MIC'ed the RP Cams with twice the milage had NO wear at all. We tested against new stock cams (shelf set from ford) and the Micrometer reveiled ZERO wear. yet the M1 cams had a noticable "groove" where the followers touched the lobes on the cam. I had pictures but traded my iPhone 3g for a 4G and forgot to pull the pictures. I will do this again over the winter, the Shop is doing a Dyno tune so I can take full advantage of the Cams.
I pulled the heads to replace the springs with BeeHive's and did some light porting and polishing (clean up) I also replaced the Comp 127200 NSR's with the Parnelli Jones Comp 127300 VSR Cams. They have at highest lift without removing or limiting the phasers.
Here are some of the pictures( remember this car has 85,000 on the clock)
Porting and polishing
And yes, I did all the work myself...
I have 95,000 miles today so doing my Royal Purple oil change.
My friend's car, the one with the M1 Cams; He spun a bearing on the way back from Carlisle, PA; destroyed both heads, pistons and block as well as the cams. he is in the process of replacing the entire engine but the added cost of heads and cams is delaying the build.
I was able to test the Cams with a micrometer, I took them to the shop where his car is and had them MIC'ed the RP Cams with twice the milage had NO wear at all. We tested against new stock cams (shelf set from ford) and the Micrometer reveiled ZERO wear. yet the M1 cams had a noticable "groove" where the followers touched the lobes on the cam. I had pictures but traded my iPhone 3g for a 4G and forgot to pull the pictures. I will do this again over the winter, the Shop is doing a Dyno tune so I can take full advantage of the Cams.
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Made some changes to the appearance of the engine bay
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Originally Posted By: 2k05gt
New Pictures
Made some changes to the appearance of the engine bay
Funny, a buddy of mine spun a bearing in his '01 GT a few years ago, I think it was #7 rod bearing. Though I think his was "user error" if you know what I mean
Car looks as awesome as ever
New Pictures
Made some changes to the appearance of the engine bay
Funny, a buddy of mine spun a bearing in his '01 GT a few years ago, I think it was #7 rod bearing. Though I think his was "user error" if you know what I mean
Car looks as awesome as ever
Thanks,
My Friends car started to use oil, he ran low a couple times then "boom" I will try to find the pictures of the damage, it's bad. He was using Comp 127500 stage 3 cams with phaser lockouts so the valve lift was high, the valve to piston contact bent the intake valves and imbeded them into the heads. Sad, very sad.
My Friends car started to use oil, he ran low a couple times then "boom" I will try to find the pictures of the damage, it's bad. He was using Comp 127500 stage 3 cams with phaser lockouts so the valve lift was high, the valve to piston contact bent the intake valves and imbeded them into the heads. Sad, very sad.
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Originally Posted By: 2k05gt
Thanks,
My Friends car started to use oil, he ran low a couple times then "boom" I will try to find the pictures of the damage, it's bad. He was using Comp 127500 stage 3 cams with phaser lockouts so the valve lift was high, the valve to piston contact bent the intake valves and imbeded them into the heads. Sad, very sad.
YIKES!
I get the impression he's not as much of a maintenance nut as you are eh?
Thanks,
My Friends car started to use oil, he ran low a couple times then "boom" I will try to find the pictures of the damage, it's bad. He was using Comp 127500 stage 3 cams with phaser lockouts so the valve lift was high, the valve to piston contact bent the intake valves and imbeded them into the heads. Sad, very sad.
YIKES!
I get the impression he's not as much of a maintenance nut as you are eh?
Originally Posted By: 2k05gt
Thanks,
My Friends car started to use oil, he ran low a couple times then "boom" I will try to find the pictures of the damage, it's bad. He was using Comp 127500 stage 3 cams with phaser lockouts so the valve lift was high, the valve to piston contact bent the intake valves and imbeded them into the heads. Sad, very sad.
Is this the one you were talking about a couple of posts up when you mentioned the groove in the cam lobes?
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Originally Posted By: 2k05gt
Thanks,
My Friends car started to use oil, he ran low a couple times then "boom" I will try to find the pictures of the damage, it's bad. He was using Comp 127500 stage 3 cams with phaser lockouts so the valve lift was high, the valve to piston contact bent the intake valves and imbeded them into the heads. Sad, very sad.
Is this the one you were talking about a couple of posts up when you mentioned the groove in the cam lobes?
I got the impression that it was.....
Originally Posted By: 2k05gt
Thanks,
My Friends car started to use oil, he ran low a couple times then "boom" I will try to find the pictures of the damage, it's bad. He was using Comp 127500 stage 3 cams with phaser lockouts so the valve lift was high, the valve to piston contact bent the intake valves and imbeded them into the heads. Sad, very sad.
Is this the one you were talking about a couple of posts up when you mentioned the groove in the cam lobes?
I got the impression that it was.....
Any idea how much HP you are producing with the current configuration?
Nice job!
Nice job!
Originally Posted By: steve20
something doesn't smell right
12.29
400hp
and the weight of a Rustang ?
=doesn't add up
either it isn't 400 hp, or it isn't 12.29, or a lot of weight was removed from it's rather portly 3540 curb weight
Ya know, I'm no drag racer. But I do live 3 miles directly East of Moroso (now PBIR) and I go there regularly when I find myself bored, with nothing to do.
My overall impression is that a late body style Mustang, with a few mods, will turn in very good times. It adds up! They perform quite well. I invite you to come here and see.
something doesn't smell right
12.29
400hp
and the weight of a Rustang ?
=doesn't add up
either it isn't 400 hp, or it isn't 12.29, or a lot of weight was removed from it's rather portly 3540 curb weight
Ya know, I'm no drag racer. But I do live 3 miles directly East of Moroso (now PBIR) and I go there regularly when I find myself bored, with nothing to do.
My overall impression is that a late body style Mustang, with a few mods, will turn in very good times. It adds up! They perform quite well. I invite you to come here and see.
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Originally Posted By: Ben99GT
Have you tried the new API SN RP oils which lack Synerlec?
^^That`s what`s making me afraid to use RP anymore. They took out the additive that they claim makes their oil do what it does. I did a UOA with RP 20W50 (SJ rated w/Synerlec) and there were no wear metals at all in the test results. BUT,will the "synerlec-less" RP be as good,or is it just an average over the counter synth,no longer in the "boutique" status?
Have you tried the new API SN RP oils which lack Synerlec?
^^That`s what`s making me afraid to use RP anymore. They took out the additive that they claim makes their oil do what it does. I did a UOA with RP 20W50 (SJ rated w/Synerlec) and there were no wear metals at all in the test results. BUT,will the "synerlec-less" RP be as good,or is it just an average over the counter synth,no longer in the "boutique" status?
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Has anyone here tried the "new" sn without-Synerlec" RP yet? Does it still have that odd "rubber" smell to it?
Royal Purple still has synerlec but only if you get their new "HPS" line or the 5w40 flavor only.
Sweet! Keep it coming!!
One of the best threads on this forum IMO. Thanks for updating!
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Has anyone here tried the "new" sn without-Synerlec" RP yet? Does it still have that odd "rubber" smell to it?
I am using the new 5W20 SN stuff and it does not have that same odd smell as the old SL formula's did.
Has anyone here tried the "new" sn without-Synerlec" RP yet? Does it still have that odd "rubber" smell to it?
I am using the new 5W20 SN stuff and it does not have that same odd smell as the old SL formula's did.
Originally Posted By: deven
Royal Purple still has synerlec but only if you get their new "HPS" line or the 5w40 flavor only.
Are you sure that the 5W40 actually has it? The 5W40 is API SM which required a big drop in ppm of ZDDP over SL. That is why RP resisted reformulating for so long. RP's Synerlac relies heavily on ZDDP. If the 5W40 actually does have it then I would say the 0W40 and 15W40, their other 2 SM rated weights, would as well.
Royal Purple still has synerlec but only if you get their new "HPS" line or the 5w40 flavor only.
Are you sure that the 5W40 actually has it? The 5W40 is API SM which required a big drop in ppm of ZDDP over SL. That is why RP resisted reformulating for so long. RP's Synerlac relies heavily on ZDDP. If the 5W40 actually does have it then I would say the 0W40 and 15W40, their other 2 SM rated weights, would as well.
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