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#2421021 - 10/30/11 11:10 PM Who is manufacturer of this Ford PSF?
Izb Offline


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Ford Motor Company (Europe) import from North America this power steering fluid (WSS-M2C195-A):

or

Who may be real manufacturer of this PSF?
Who does use such bottles?

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#2421033 - 10/30/11 11:44 PM Re: Who is manufacturer of this Ford PSF? [Re: Izb]
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Looks like one of ConocoPhillips older bottles maybe?
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#2421058 - 10/31/11 12:33 AM Re: Who is manufacturer of this Ford PSF? [Re: Izb]
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I don't remember the pour symbol on the smooth CP bottles. There was a run of Mercon V (black bottle) that used this same bottle, just before the newer CP red bottles showed up. I kind of thought it was a Chevron bottle.
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#2421093 - 10/31/11 03:20 AM Re: Who is manufacturer of this Ford PSF? [Re: Ben99GT]
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Originally Posted By: Ben99GT
I don't remember the pour symbol on the smooth CP bottles. There was a run of Mercon V (black bottle) that used this same bottle, just before the newer CP red bottles showed up. I kind of thought it was a Chevron bottle.


I agree with you (previous Motorcraft botle has no pour sybbol).
Chevron? But Chevron has no power steering fluid, only MD3 and Multy-Vehicle fluids: http://www.chevron.com/products/prodserv/transmission/

p.s. This is MSDS of power steering fluid: http://www.msds.ford.com/start/showPDF.a...-2_25082010.pdf


Edited by Izb (10/31/11 03:27 AM)

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#2421537 - 10/31/11 03:46 PM Re: Who is manufacturer of this Ford PSF? [Re: Izb]
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Originally Posted By: Izb
Originally Posted By: Ben99GT
I don't remember the pour symbol on the smooth CP bottles. There was a run of Mercon V (black bottle) that used this same bottle, just before the newer CP red bottles showed up. I kind of thought it was a Chevron bottle.


I agree with you (previous Motorcraft botle has no pour sybbol).
Chevron? But Chevron has no power steering fluid, only MD3 and Multy-Vehicle fluids: http://www.chevron.com/products/prodserv/transmission/

p.s. This is MSDS of power steering fluid: http://www.msds.ford.com/start/showPDF.a...-2_25082010.pdf


Chevron makes PSF: http://www.rydersafetyservices.com/ryder...1A0BB9104A454AB
Chevron doesn't really market to private use as much as they do to commercial use.

It looks like this bottle to me:


I do not know anything for sure, but I remember comparing the black bottle Motorcraft Mercon V to the previous Chevron/Havoline bottles and finding no differences whatsoever. I'm not sure why there would be a run a Chevron Mercon V and PSF in a sea of ConocoPhillips products though. shrug
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#2421557 - 10/31/11 04:27 PM Re: Who is manufacturer of this Ford PSF? [Re: Izb]
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I bet it's the same people that make these:







The big rumor is that Castrol makes the Full Synthetic Manual Trans Fluid. The other stuff I am not sure. The mysterious white bottle is the VC-9 additive you run through a 6.0 or 6.4L diesel when the EGR and oil coolers don't mix water and oil.
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#2421870 - 10/31/11 09:54 PM Re: Who is manufacturer of this Ford PSF? [Re: Izb]
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WSA-M2C195-A was Mercon transmission fluid. Any power steering unit that calls for WSA-M2C195-A was serviced with Mercon transmission fluid. Ford no longer makes or licenses Mercon fluid--they started making "power steering fluid" which meets the specifications required for power steering systems that were serviced with Mercon.

However, Mercon compatible fluids continue to be available in the aftermarket, and these can be used to service those power steering systems.

Chevron MD3 is recommended for Mercon applications. As power steering units tend to be less fussy about their fluid than do transmissions, I would not hesitate to use Chevron MD3 in a Ford power steering unit that calls for WSA-M2C195-A.


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#2421878 - 10/31/11 10:01 PM Re: Who is manufacturer of this Ford PSF? [Re: Izb]
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#2426629 - 11/06/11 09:42 AM Re: Who is manufacturer of this Ford PSF? [Re: Izb]
Izb Offline


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I don't understand why Motorcraft imports into Europe
Mercon (pour point -40 C) ATF instead of XL-14 ATF (Mercon V with pour point -48 C)?

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